DVD Labeling Solution!

tadpole wrote on 9/6/2002, 7:47 PM
From the fear of the problems associated with thick-fat CD-ROM adhesive labels, and the high $ cost of direct disc printers, i've been stuck using a marker to label my DVDs - which just isn't very nice looking.

I recently came across a new adhesive label apparently designed for DVD use!

Found them here - www.americal.com
[No-Wobble Frosty White INKJET CD/DVD Labels]

As their name implies, they are "frosty" - which makes them somewhat translucent, so i would only recommend using them with blank non-branded top discs.

They seem to be working great for me so far! I would recommend all "sharpie-nators" out there to give em a shot.

Comments

sonicboom wrote on 9/6/2002, 8:41 PM
GO TO NEATO.COM
you can download a FREE template
plus, you can buy labels from them - very cheap
as well as jewel cases and inserts
everything you need to label your cd, vhs tape or dvd
and did i mention the template is free
important---make sure you buy a cd-stomper....it makes sure you put the labels on straight
:)
sb
wcoxe1 wrote on 9/6/2002, 9:04 PM
Are the Neato DVD labels thin, or like all the thick CD labels?
Paul_Holmes wrote on 9/6/2002, 9:42 PM
I've been using Neato for a year now to label my DVDs and never had a problem. Try the new High-gloss finish ones. They look fantastic.
sonicboom wrote on 9/6/2002, 10:32 PM
Paul, what burner and software do you use?
thnx
sb
seeker wrote on 9/7/2002, 2:27 AM
Tadpole,

Apparently those "No-Wobble" labels are designed to function as both small-center-hole labels and as standard-center-hole labels. If you are using a standard center hole, apparently you remove a section that contains the small center hole from the center of the label.

Apparently that removable section is pre-scored to make it easy to remove. Does that pre-scoring compromise the label if you are using it as a small-center-hole label? I wouldn't want the center piece to come loose in use. I don't have a labeler yet, but I am inclined toward the small-center-hole style, because of the larger "real estate" of the label.
BillyBoy wrote on 9/7/2002, 9:58 AM
Take a look at Sure Thing's CD Labeler Deluxe about $40. It comes with a nice assortment of labels including the small hole variety. It has over a thousand backgrounds, the software is easy to use and it has one of the better CD labler gizmos that is one piece and don't look like its going to break if you sneeze.
Paul_Holmes wrote on 9/7/2002, 1:29 PM
sonicboom, I use the DVR-A03, MyDVD and DVDIt SE. MyDVD came with the burner a year ago. DVDIt SE was a free upgrade. Between the two I am able to do just about anything I want in authoring, except motion menus. I can set chapter points, end actions for any button or movie, and author 16X9 DVDs. I think in the future I'll change over to Ulead's DVD authoring software, however, since it sounds like it does just about everything for about $300.
tadpole wrote on 9/7/2002, 4:54 PM
Seeker -
Good point. Yes they do have different sized, prescored center holes- 3 in fact. The biggest hole (ie standard size) is what i use with my Memorex Labeling System, and it works perfect.

If you want to leave the "doughnut" center on the label (for the small-center-hole) it seems a bit tricky when first pealing it from backing, as the rings start coming apart, but once you can get a hold on the center ring u can then and carefully pull the entire label off backing - the rings seem to magically re-align themselves.

I too like the real estate so i'm going to pick up an small hole applicator. Just put one on by hand it seem to work just fine - i wouldn't worry about it coming off.

Important thing with these labels, is the DIFFERENT material they use.
Its almost like a big circle of scotch tape. (REMEMBER - they are translucent so if u are using a disc with a branded top, any text/logo/markings will show through the label!!)

I will post once i try it out with small hole applicator - 99% confident there shouldn't be a problem.
tadpole wrote on 9/7/2002, 5:01 PM
Wcoxel -
Yes, its a really thin material like scotch tape - not like big-fat-thick-white labels u get from neato/avery etc. - again, just remember they are translucent (aka "frosty") so only looks good with blank topside discs.

inkjet printers only



sonicboom wrote on 9/7/2002, 7:13 PM
neato has different templates for different formats
and it is free
neato.com
i always like to plug free things
:)
sb
sonicboom wrote on 9/7/2002, 7:15 PM
paul
thnx for the info
i think i am going to buy the a04 pioneer--so i can burn dvd-r
and maybe uleads ($40) for chapters--why?--i have no idea
and i guess i will get generic dvd's--like $1.51 per
i understand they will play on 90% of the players
at this moment i don't even own a dvd player!!??:(
thnx for all the info everyone
sb
John_Beech wrote on 9/7/2002, 7:51 PM
Does anybody know if these labels work with color-laser printers? John
John_Beech wrote on 9/7/2002, 7:52 PM
Oops, I see tadpole answered this already, sorry for the bandwidth. John
Paul_Holmes wrote on 9/7/2002, 10:57 PM
If you're making videos to be played on DVD players be careful about the media you use. Others in the forum may know of cheap DVD-R platters that work well, but I've had miserable experience trying to save money. Memorex sucks -- video breaks up -- that I know for sure -- and they're not even cheap! Had to throw away a bunch of Memorex DVDs. So far I've had perfect success with Pioneer and Sony. I've also heard that the Apple brand is good. However, hopefully someone has experience with cheaper DVD-R media that actually is good for video and I'll read about it here. We all like to save money!

P.S. This is an edited message from earlier. I mistakenly slandered Maxell in the original post when I meant Memorex. Sorry Maxell!
markrad wrote on 3/10/2003, 1:21 AM
Tadpole (or others) - When using these "frosty" labels which looks better- Silver or White faced disks? Say for example I'm printing a label with the US Flag on it, will the silver disk make the flag appear Red, SILVER, and blue?
For printing a text-only label then I guess the color of the disk wouldn't matter?
It's late, maybe it's just not that complicated....but you do LIKE the "frosties"?

Paul Holmes-Still wonder if your Memorex "problems" weren't actually the DVD player.
MY "solution" was to take a stack of "bad" memorex disks to the store where I found they played just fine on the Mintek DVD-1600 and other players. I ended up buying the Mintek). In my case I concluded that my Apex 1100W was the problem. Even so, it sounds like the Memorex media may still be part of the overall problem as far as compatibility goes. The Mintek has worked with everything but DVD+R but I've only got a single +R disk to test with so I'm not sure the DVD itself is good or not.

Sonicboom - I know you love NEATO.com but every label I found there was the old thick-skin variety that they have always sold. That may be fine for CD-R but maybe no so good for DVD judging by some posts I've read here. Have you found any other thin labels anywhere?
markrad wrote on 3/10/2003, 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: DVD Labeling Solution!
Posted by: The_Producer (Ignore This User)
Date: 3/10/2003 1:21:42 AM

Tadpole (or others) - When using these "frosty" labels which looks better- Silver or White faced disks? Say for example I'm printing a label with the US Flag on it, will the silver disk make the flag appear Red, SILVER, and blue?
For printing a text-only label then I guess the color of the disk wouldn't matter?
It's late, maybe it's just not that complicated....but you do LIKE the "frosties"?

Paul Holmes-Still wonder if your Memorex "problems" weren't actually the DVD player.
MY "solution" was to take a stack of "bad" memorex disks to the store where I found they played just fine on the Mintek DVD-1600 and other players. I ended up buying the Mintek). In my case I concluded that my Apex 1100W was the problem. Even so, it sounds like the Memorex media may still be part of the overall problem as far as compatibility goes. The Mintek has worked with everything but DVD+R but I've only got a single +R disk to test with so I'm not sure the DVD itself is good or not.

Sonicboom - I know you love NEATO.com but every label I found there was the old thick-skin variety that they have always sold. That may be fine for CD-R but maybe no so good for DVD judging by some posts I've read here. Have you found any other thin labels anywhere?
markrad wrote on 3/10/2003, 10:13 PM
Nearly 24 hours with not a comment???
Come on trusted forum, don't let me down now....
jetdv wrote on 3/10/2003, 10:30 PM
Just get printable DVDs and a CD printer and you don't have to worry about the thickness of the label.
markrad wrote on 3/10/2003, 11:39 PM
Jetdv,
That is certainly one "solution" but for me not very economical, at least not
at the present. Do you have experience printing directly on disks? If so, what printer and disks do you use?
Thanks.
Sab wrote on 3/11/2003, 7:45 AM
Hi,

After wrestling with the label issue for quite a while and then actually seeing a warped disc with a paper label, we immediately stopped that practice and invested in a Primera Signature Pro disc printer. It wasn't cheap at @$1400.00 but the results are tremendous. We've printed over four hundred discs already and are still on our first color and black cartridges. These are also expensive at $57 each. We generally print at 1200 dpi and 75% ink saturation, although the printer does 2400 dpi. Discs take about one minute to print at that resolution and coverage. Full coverage color discs look spectacular.

In the end, our business looks better and we don't have to deal with paper label issues ever. Over time, this investment will pay for itself just like any other piece of equipment should do.


Mike
jetdv wrote on 3/11/2003, 9:18 AM
Yes, I print with a Primera Signature III CD printer onto Verbatim White Printable Surface DVD-R blanks.
wcoxe1 wrote on 3/11/2003, 12:00 PM
I understand that Epson makes a printer that can print directly to DVD. Anyone know anything about that one? How about others, besides the Primvera?
mdotnet wrote on 3/11/2003, 12:12 PM
We just bought one of these. Haven't recieved it yet, but when we do, I could post my experience. Seems like the perfect affordable solution for an average consumer IMO.

http://www.bmyers.com/public/571.cfm?sd=30
Paul_Holmes wrote on 3/11/2003, 12:57 PM
Just saw the new posts on this topic. I don't know if Memorex has improved. Haven't tried them in months. Right now I use only Sony and they work fine on at least 3 brands of players I've tried (Pioneer, Sony, and whatever that off brand I bought my sister was). I think there was more at stake with the Memorex back when I wrote the post. Pioneer was warning not to use brands that weren't 2X certified by them. Funny thing is Sony wasn't but I've never created a coaster with one and I'm sticking with a good thing. My suspicion with certain media is that they use an inferior dye.

As far as inkjet labels, I've never had a problem with Neato glossy (they look great!) and I've done over 100 DVDs with them. My only concern, of course, has been with inkjet ink -- it can smear easily!