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Subject:hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Posted by: Artemas
Date:2/12/2003 9:52:28 AM
I need a program that will take my cassettes and hi speed dub them into MP3s so I can use them in my Vegas program. The cassettes are monolog on various subjects so the quality can be as low as FM quality, but higher would be better. If anyone has any ideas how to do this or anything related please let me know! |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:2/12/2003 11:10:27 AM
If you have a cassette player that will play at a faster speed, you can record this into SoundForge and then reset the sample rate. For example, you could play at 3 3/4ips (double speed) into a 44.1KHz file, then set the sample rate to 22.05KHz to restore the normal speed, then encode to MP3. |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Artemas
Date:2/12/2003 3:54:25 PM
Yes that might work!! Have you tried this or is it theory only? I will try it t the week end. Thank you!! Artemas |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Artemas
Date:2/12/2003 3:56:51 PM
Also, I dont have Sound Forge but I have Vegas 3.0 will Vegas do that or no? Will I have to buy Sound FOrge or is there another program thats cheaper that I could use to do this? Thanks in advance. I payed 400 for Vegas and it seems Forge is another 350, OUCH!! Artemas |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Sonic
Date:2/12/2003 6:15:55 PM
Record the track at 88.2 kHz in Vegas (set the project rate to 88.2 kHz, as well). Add Sonic Foundry Pitch Shift as a track effect: -12 semitones, highest accuracy, Preserve duration unchecked. Then select and render to new track (at 88.2 kHz). Then set the project rate to 44.1 kHz (and perhaps resample quality to best, though it only affects the anti-alias filter in this case) and render to the desired destination format. There are shortcuts to these steps, but in my quick experimentation, they all degrade the audio more than necessary at certain points. You may still lose a little high end, but if it is coming from cassette and going to mp3, it's probably not enough to matter. ...or record at 88.2kHz and use a hex editor to modify the wave header. ...or buy Sound Forge <g>. J. |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Artemas
Date:2/12/2003 9:55:08 PM
Thanks J for the input. If you have time could you elaborate on which line in Hex Editor will need to be changed if I go that route? All in all I think the Vegas program will do all I need it to without having to add on to it is this correct? Thanks for a speedy reply! Artemas |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Geoff_Wood
Date:2/12/2003 10:12:35 PM
MP3's - you cannot record as an MP3 - you record as a WAV, then render to MP3 on saving. Presumably your high-speed replay deck has switched equalisation curves for the different rates ? You could also use time-stretching (without pitch preservation) to get them back to normal pitch/length, if the sample freq editing doesn't do it right. geoff |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Artemas
Date:2/13/2003 7:48:54 AM
Hmmm, Geoff, sounds high tech to me. I am using a simple boom box type of setup. It hi speeds dubs at only one speed far as I know. My chief concern is time it takes to get the cassette into wav format, thus high sped dubbing is needed. I hav over 699 tapes to work on before July to get this project done. Send all advice / help you can Thanks Artemas |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Sonic
Date:2/13/2003 10:03:52 AM
It's not a one line change. If you need to ask, I'd suggest not even attempting it until educating yourself in RIFF format for uncompressed .wav, hex representation, endianness, etc. There's probably a shareware tool out there that will do it. Probably a better route. J. |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:2/13/2003 12:48:39 PM
Here's the simpler Vegas method: Record your file into Vegas. I'm assuming that your boombox has a double speed option for making copies fast, so we'll assume this is done at double speed. If not, adjust the factors accordingly. Determine how long the recording is on the timeline. Ctrl-drag the right end of the clip out to twice the length. Right-mouse-button click on the event and choose Properties. Set the Method to Change length and pitch. While you're on this screen, you should see the new length at double the original length. If it's not exactly right, you can adjust it here, or set Semitones to -12. Click OK. Render the recording to MP3. |
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Subject:RE: hi speed dub cassette to mp3 with forge?
Reply by: Artemas
Date:2/16/2003 8:08:48 AM
Thanks so much both of you I will try this here in a few days and get back to you by weeks end. Artemas |