Subject:Rendering midi?

Posted by: knowbody

Date:2/9/2003 5:36:27 AM

I have a midi file. The device is SB Audigy Snyth A. Is there an easy way to convert the midi sound into wav format? If I try to render the track it doesn't show. Ctrl+M does nothing.

Thanks,

Chris (Hunt)

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:2/9/2003 9:37:11 AM

Weird. Try soloing the MIDI track in question and then setting the Loop Region over the whole event before bouncing down. (Be sure to check the "Render loop region only" option.)

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: knowbody

Date:2/9/2003 5:52:26 PM

Thanks, Iocubus. If I select render Acid only gives me the option to save as an ACD file. When I press CTRL+M nothing happens at all.

I think I remember reading somewhere that in order to convert Wav to midi the device has to be a soft synth and not the sound card itself. If I use the DLS I can capture the audio without problem - but assigning the instruments I want to use with DLS synth is a chore - it won't co-operate with the midi OPT plugin GeneSys SF2 library.

That Acid allows me to select the audigy soundcard's synth but won't let me bounce the sound down to Wav seems inconsistent and is also annoying.

Chris

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/9/2003 6:07:16 PM

You can't render an externally routed MIDI Track. The AB Audigy Synth A is not a softsynth, but an external MIDI port provided by hardware. Yes, it is a "softsynth", but one that is implemented in hardware.

ACID can only render through a VSTi or the DLS softsynth.

The only option you have is to record the output of your Audigy back into ACID.

Peter

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/9/2003 6:14:29 PM

>>That Acid allows me to select the audigy soundcard's synth but won't let me bounce the sound down to Wav seems inconsistent and is also annoying
<<
Why is it inconsistent?

The Audigy softsynth is a hardware port implemented by the Audigy driver. It is not a softsynth like a VSTi or our DLS synth. It is completely external to ACID. There is no mechanism through either VSTi or DLS to get the audio produced by this synth. It is wired to the hardware outputs of the Audigy. Even the DirectMusic implementation of this synth does not expose to a host the ability to recieve the rendered SoundFont output of the softsynth.

It would be the same as rendering a track routed to a Motif or Korg external synth. The only means to do this is to record the output of the device as an audio track.

Peter

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: knowbody

Date:2/9/2003 10:14:15 PM

Thanks, Peter I understand, sort of. What do people think is the best option then? Rather than render the project (which will exclude the hardware synth midi tracks)bring up SoundForge and record the project and trim the front and back ends? Can anyone think of any other alternatives?

Chris

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/10/2003 7:17:59 PM

There is really no simple solution to this. You could record the output of your Audigy back into ACID or use another app.

Peter

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: dkistner

Date:2/11/2003 2:20:42 PM

Or you could get a VSTi sampler and pull the soundfonts that you like into it. Kontakt does this, I believe. VSampler is supposed to, too. Jeskola XS-1, which I just purchased, is supposed to do it, but I haven't yet tried it in Acid. I'm doing basically what Peter recommends: recording it or not using the Live! soundfonts at all...actually, more the latter than the former! I bought SampleTank XL.

Diane

Subject:RE: Rendering midi?

Reply by: knowbody

Date:2/11/2003 4:15:08 PM

Thanks, Diane. I wonder if Vsampler is compatible with the Genesys SF2 Library?

Chris