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Subject:What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Posted by: knowbody
Date:2/8/2003 3:42:04 AM
In the sucking Intel thread CuzinB wrote: "I see that you have a ASUS board...so where/how did you decide on that particular board? Did someone suggest it...did ya buy it sight unseen... or did you do your homework on the board...reason I ask is - that board has problems....most likely same reason you are having problems." What problems? Are there any fixes? Work-arounds? What mother-board would people recommend? I have one and I have had problems with stuttering. Thanks, Chris (Hunt) |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: suprox
Date:2/8/2003 5:03:27 AM
Yeah what problems, I would like to know also. |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/8/2003 1:00:50 PM
From the sounds of it, CuzinB is suggesting that particular model of ASUS motherboard is having problems, not the actual brand. I have a CUSL2-C myself and have no problems. (Of course, that was before just about every manufacturer decided to put onboard audio on just about every new motherboard.) HTH, Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:2/8/2003 1:42:42 PM
I was speaking about the particular model...NOT ASUS in general. Ask vanblah about where he read the questionable reviews....See here for some details http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=155248&Page=1 |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: knowbody
Date:2/9/2003 2:52:44 AM
Thanks for making it clear. Incidentally can anyone suggest a good source of information about how to assign IRQ's - I understand it's done via the bios? This subject is way beyond my current technical knowledge. For example, it appears I have the following shared IRQ: (PCI)16 ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV (PCI)16 Intel(R) 82891DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2 (PCI)16 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Is this shared twice or three times? Would I be better to move the Video Card to an empty slot? Is that possible? It appears I have (PCI) 17 unused (at least it's not mentioned) I'm happy to show my ignorance if someone can provide me with some answers! Chris (Hunt) |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:2/9/2003 8:20:44 AM
Knowbody, This is a tricky exercise in finding the best locations (slots for your cards). Don't worry too juch about your PCI 16 collection...do worry if your audio interface gets lumped in with a bunch of other devices. What IRQ is your audio card on? Maybe put up a list here so I can take a look. Cuzin B |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: knowbody
Date:2/9/2003 9:01:03 AM
Thanks, Cuzin B. Here is the complete list. Are these settings OK - The soundcard seems to have a slot all to itself. Chris (ISA)0 System timer (ISA)1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard (ISA)3 Communications Port (COM2) (ISA)4 Communications Port (COM1) (ISA)6 Standard Floppy Disc Controller (ISA)8 System CMOS/real time clock (ISA)12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse (ISA)13 Numeric Data Processor (ISA)14 Primary IDE Channel (ISA)15 secondary IDE channel (ISA)22 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant system (PCI)16 ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV (PCI)16 Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2 (PCI)16 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller (PCI)18 Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C7 (PCI)19 Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C4 (PCI)20 realtek RTL8139/810X Pamily PCI Fast Ethernet NIC (PCI)21 HSP56 Micromodem (PCI)22 Creative SB Audigy (PCI)23 Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24CD (PCI)23 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:2/9/2003 11:39:04 AM
Yep - you are good to go. Again - if you are not experiencing any issues, then I wouldn't worry about this too much. XP pretty much takes care of this kind of stuff for now as opposed to Windows 2000 which required a fairly unique touch to get the IRQs to play nice. Cheers, Cuzin B |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: knowbody
Date:2/9/2003 5:37:23 PM
Thanks Cuzin B, I was having issues with a lot of stuttering but haven't noticed any recently - but then I haven't been making much music recently. I'll keep you posted! Cheers, Chris |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Baconzoo
Date:2/20/2003 9:59:37 AM
I had 2 bad Asus board from Googlegear, which they replaced one and refunded the other. P4B533-VM I would stay with the Intel chipsets, screw the SIS ones. Buggy And PC2100 is fast enough. I don't feel/see the difference with PC2700. Gigabyte boards are now allowing PCI latency vales to be changed in the BIOS, which is why I chose Asus. So now I'm looking at their board as well. With XP the IRQ hassel goes away! |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Spy
Date:2/20/2003 11:18:27 AM
I haven't had any problems so far, but everywhere I turn I hear (read) that SIS chipsets are a pile of cack. What I have (please try not to wet yourselves laughing) is a PC Chips mobo, SIS 730 chipset, AMD Duron 1.3GHz, no soundcard yet (still saving up for one) all the sounds are coming from the mobo at present, using WinXP Home. Unfortunately, I didn't do any research before I bought the computer (from a music shop by the way) which is why I have this set-up. My question is, is it easy/economical for me to upgrade this lot or should I just buy a(nother) new PC? One Love, Spy! |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: ATP
Date:2/20/2003 1:04:06 PM
Spy, if you're (semi)serious about making music using your PC you might certainly consider a complete upgrade of your system. in other words, get a completely new system. most music software is pretty demanding, and somehow i don't think your Duron 1.3 will be able to keep up. in your case that would probably mean getting new parts for everything, as a new cpu might not fit on your current mobo, which you will have to replace as well, and then your RAM doesn't fit on that new mobo, so you would have to change that too. ACID 4 alone will probably run on your system, but add a few VSTi's and things will start to get laggy. but then, i've used ACID 2.0 on a p400 for a long time. granted, i could only have maybe 6 loops playing before the song started to skip, but hey, if you're a patient man you can go a long way. ;) i'm not very patient so i chose to upgrade. no regrets so far. |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: ATP
Date:2/20/2003 1:05:08 PM
as for the topic at hand, i have an ASUS A7V333 with a VIA chipset and i've been running audio apps without fail so far. and to think i used an SB Live at that for a long time... i guess i'm very lucky. ;) |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: vanblah
Date:2/20/2003 2:18:57 PM
All of my motherboards are ASUS. I use three machines; two dedicated to audio. I can't remember where I read the questionable reviews ... but I remember the problems were with the Intel 845PE chipset. Perhaps the problems have been cleared up by now ... I'll try to find those reviews. Doug |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: Spy
Date:2/22/2003 7:26:22 PM
Posted by: ATP (Ignore This User) Date: 2/20/2003 1:04:06 PM "Spy, if you're (semi)serious about making music using your PC you might certainly consider a complete upgrade of your system. in other words, get a completely new system. most music software is pretty demanding, and somehow i don't think your Duron 1.3 will be able to keep up. in your case that would probably mean getting new parts for everything, as a new cpu might not fit on your current mobo, which you will have to replace as well, and then your RAM doesn't fit on that new mobo, so you would have to change that too." First of all thank you for your reply. Just for clarity when you say 'new system' do you mean a new PC (i.e. the whole kit and caboodle) or just the innards (i.e. mobo, cpu, etc.)? BTW, my current mobo can handle faster Athlon chips but is only compatible with SDRAM. I was planning to upgrade to a 2+GHz Athlon and add another hard drive (80 or more GB), which would be dedicated to storing audio (i.e. .acd, .wav, .mp3, etc.). Is this unrealistic? One Love, Spy! P.S. I bought a Midiman soundcard lead from Studio Spares so I can (and do) use my keyboard now. That combined with my recent acquisition of Fruity Loops has made me a very happy bunny. |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: stusy
Date:2/22/2003 10:08:11 PM
Running an ASUS A7A266 with an AthlonXP 1.7, and an emagic AW2 card (old techno) and 98SE...workin fine..! |
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Subject:RE: What problems do Asus motherboards have?
Reply by: ATP
Date:2/23/2003 8:14:44 AM
Spy posted : Just for clarity when you say 'new system' do you mean a new PC (i.e. the whole kit and caboodle) or just the innards (i.e. mobo, cpu, etc.)? BTW, my current mobo can handle faster Athlon chips but is only compatible with SDRAM. I was planning to upgrade to a 2+GHz Athlon and add another hard drive (80 or more GB), which would be dedicated to storing audio (i.e. .acd, .wav, .mp3, etc.). Is this unrealistic? ------------------------ with new system i mean just the parts. there is no need to get a completely new case if a new mobo will fit. same goes for extended stuff like your monitor or mouse. if your mobo can handle a 2 Ghz cpu then simply upgrading the cpu will already help a lot. as for the SD RAM vs DDR RAM, i don't know whether there is a noticeable difference in processing power. i think 512 mb of SD RAM will get you a long way, even tho it operates at slower speeds. an Athlon XP 2000+ cpu will run at 266 Mhz, SD RAM can run at 66, 100 or 133 Mhz. the only thing i don't know is if the clockspeeds of the RAM will influence the clock speed of your CPU in any way. perhaps you can get more info about this at your local computer store. a 80 Gb HD for audio storage is always good. i would make sure it's a 7200 rpm drive rather than 5400 rpm, and if you can get one with 8 mb cache (Western Digital have a 80 Gb 8 mb cache HD which is rock solid) that's even better. finally, if i were you i'd make a comparison between the price of a partial upgrade (cpu, possibly more ram and a HD), and the price of a complete upgrade (cpu, different ram, mobo and HD). then see if the difference is enough to warrant either one of the purchases. good luck. :) |