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Subject:BUG in MIDI properties ?
Posted by: Djipy
Date:12/25/2002 5:45:34 AM

When I display Track Properties for a MIDI track, I've got 3 tabs:

General | General | List Editor

Yes, twice the General tab and no more Piano Roll tab.

When I enter the MIDI editors selection and add the piano roll, I've got three times the General tab...

Acid Pro 4.0b on Win98SE
I have already uninstalled and reinstalled 4.0b but the problem remains.

See the window picture here

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: Djipy
Date:12/26/2002 11:57:17 AM

The same problem, someone ?

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:12/26/2002 1:59:31 PM

I don't have that problem. It almost sounds like a Registry issue. Did you try clearing out the Registry of anything dealing with SoFo once ACID is uninstalled? It wouldn't surprise me, knowing Win 98SE. (For once, I'm actually glad I made the jump to Windows XP.)

Try contacting SoFo directly yet?

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: billybk
Date:12/26/2002 3:24:13 PM

No, I haven't seen that particular problem on my DAW, with ACID 4.0b, although
I am also using WinXP and not Win98SE.


Billy Buck

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:12/26/2002 3:51:42 PM

Same here Billy Buck.

Tony Mac

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: zerobae
Date:12/26/2002 4:24:51 PM

hi djipy,
i got exactly the same problem, and i'm using windows 98SE, too. also, i installed a demo version of geniesys's midi editor which does not work at all (window disappears at mouse-overs or at least "flashes"). did you have a try with this opt-midi-editor?

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: zerobae
Date:12/26/2002 4:28:24 PM

>Did you try clearing out the Registry of anything dealing with SoFo once ACID is uninstalled?

iacobus, could you tell me how to do that - clear out the registry of anything dealing with sofo?

thanks,
zerobae

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: Djipy
Date:12/26/2002 4:42:45 PM

No, I did not install other OPT plug-ins.

But here are some clues:

Previously: I installed 4.0, then updated to 4.0a, then 4.0b (without uninstalling between releases)

Test 1: I uninstalled Acid 4 and reinstalled 4.0b -> the OPT bug occurs

Test 2: I uninstalled 4.0b, RegClean'ed the registry and installed 4.0a -> it's OK !

Test 3 : I upgraded from 4.0a to 4.0b -> the OPT bug occurs again

Conclusion so far:

With versions 4.0 and 4.0a : no problem
With version 4.0b : the bug occurs with Win98SE

Obviously, there is something wrong with 4.0b .

It's not the first time that a newer release contains new bugs for free...
Anyway, let's wait for a 4.0c, then a 4.0d for fixing 4.0c new bugs, then 4.0e before a 5.0 that crashes, ...



Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:12/26/2002 9:13:07 PM

Go to Start>Run, and in the "Open" field, type regedit. Try looking under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MIDI Plugins. (Look elsewhere as well.)

If there are multiple instances of "MIDI General" here, I'd uninstall ACID and then delete this entry.

A disclaimer: I cannot be held responsible for whatever happens, as mucking around in your Registry can produce undesirable results (like your OS not loading). Be absolutely sure to backup your Registry first.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: Djipy
Date:12/27/2002 1:39:43 PM

No, I have checked but there are 3 MIDI plug-ins only : Piano roll, List and General.
I'm sure that the problem is not due to my computer but it's a new bug that comes with 4.0b. It seems obvious, as 4.0 and 4.0a do not have this problem.




Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:12/27/2002 2:33:40 PM

Have you also checked elsewhere in the Registry? (Do a search; repeat a search by using F3.)

I really don't know what's up. I'm using 4.0b and only have the three basic tabs. (I'm using Windows XP.)

Iacobus

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ? A solution here.
Reply by: Djipy
Date:12/27/2002 5:12:18 PM

Thanks.

I have made some (careful) manipulations in the registry and the problem seems to be solved !

Here are the latest actions done :

1- In the registry -> HKLM -> Software -> MIDI Plugins : the key {C0E06608-61A4-418B-B6CD-78DF77E52ED2} renamed to {$C0E06608-61A4-418B-B6CD-78DF77E52ED2} (add a dollar sign or anything you want)

2- Run Acid 4.0. So far, only the Piano roll and the List editor are visible in MIDI track properties. And the "Midi Editors..." button does not operate.

3- Close Acid

4- Reset the original name of the key above

5- Run Acid again and the problem is solved ("General" tab only once)

I really don't know why it works now.
Perhaps is there a bug in the 4.0b installation script that initializes bad parameters at setup ? And bad parameters reset by the actions above ???
It's up to Sonic Foundry to check.

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ?
Reply by: dkistner
Date:12/27/2002 5:38:30 PM

An aside to this conversation. Who says Win98SE is the perfectly behaved little child and therefore any software that's put in the same room with it that acts up is totally at fault? There are two sides to every story. I dumped Win98 LONG ago, and my life has been a whole lot more peaceful as a result. Win2000 is a lot more well-behaved than Win98 ever thought of being. WinXP is better still, although the OS is getting more and more complex as it matures.

I don't envy anyone who has to make software work with Win98. My advice would be to dump it.


Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ? A solution here.
Reply by: MarkWWW
Date:12/28/2002 6:50:27 AM

Hmm, I can confirm that your procedure does indeed resolve the problem of the General tab appearing twice in the Properties window of a MIDI track.

I don't make much use of MIDI in Acid so I hadn't noticed until today that I had acquired this problem since updating to Acid 4.0b, but your instructions have allowed me to put it right - many thanks.

I'm also using Win98SE so it looks as though this problem may well be specific to Win9x and not appear under Win2k/XP. Your idea of there being something wrong in the initialisation performed by the update script sounds quite plausible to me - perhaps it has to do something slightly differently under Win9x, and gets it wrong somehow.

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ? A solution here.
Reply by: DVS
Date:12/28/2002 8:37:42 AM

I have the same problem with Acid 4b at my studio, we have three PC's, one Intel P4 running 98lite, Athlon PC win98se, and a Laptop transmeta chip WinME, they all have the same problem, I,ll try your solution and sea what happens.

Thanks

Subject:RE: BUG in MIDI properties ? A solution here.
Reply by: DVS
Date:12/28/2002 10:31:56 AM

Yes :) Your solution works.

3 cheers for Djipy

C ya

Martin

Subject:talking 'bout updating windows...
Reply by: zerobae
Date:12/29/2002 5:32:42 AM

some people argue you'd have to format your hd before installing a new os - which (formatting) is something i don't wanna do. what is your experience concerning updating from win98SE to winXPhome without formatting or deleting anything? anyone here who can tell?

Subject:RE: talking 'bout updating windows...
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:12/29/2002 1:31:00 PM

I did upgrade directly from 98SE to XP without a hitch, but that was only because I wanted to check out the OS right away. I knew there some residue left in there though, so I definitely planned on formatting and installing clean later on (which I did).

Iacobus

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