Subject:Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Posted by: oddboy

Date:12/10/2002 10:28:33 PM

1.Say I have project key set to C
I have a Audio Bass Riff beatmapped and playing in C
IF I bring in a midi organ part I recorded in another app and I dont know the key it was played in. Can I set the midi track to root note of C and thertefore it will play in C

2.in the same song-if I record a piano part that has questionable notes played in a scale-and tell acid to play it in C- will the scale notes I played "fit " in the song because of acid correcting the key and thus the scale and notes

Subject:RE: Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Reply by: David_Kuznicki

Date:12/10/2002 10:37:06 PM

1.Say I have project key set to C
I have a Audio Bass Riff beatmapped and playing in C
IF I bring in a midi organ part I recorded in another app and I dont know the key it was played in. Can I set the midi track to root note of C and thertefore it will play in C

I think that will work, actually. Don't take my word for it, though-- give it a try, I'd love to know what happens.

David.

Subject:RE: Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Reply by: MatthiasPowerbomb

Date:12/11/2002 5:20:32 AM

As far as the piano part is concerned, ACID pitchshifts the whole thing up or down. It doesn't alter the scale. Every note in the whole part will be pitchshifted up or down by the same number of steps. As for the midi organ part, it depends on what the midi part's root note is set to, if it is even set to one. It doesn't seem to me like it would be that hard to figure out what key you played it in and just set it yourself. That's just me though.

Subject:RE: Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Reply by: viren55

Date:12/12/2002 12:45:43 PM

1. in a way it will play in C and it might not play in C. it will play in C only if the original root note is C. say that the loops root note is D, but u assign C as the root note. Acid will consider D(original root note) as C(user defined root note). get what i'm saying? But say after u assign C, remember u'd also have to assign the song to a key as well.

2. acid might correct the loop, but i don't know about the notes. cause say ur loop is in a minor scale, and all the other loops in ur song are major scale. than that just won't fit...will it? unless u want lots of accidentals.

but then again, whatever sounds good, just go with that. :)

Viru pateL
StudiO 2344
http://djviru.com

Subject:RE: Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:12/12/2002 1:39:05 PM

1. I believe you'll have to adjust the notes accordingly in order for the MIDI to be "in tune" with the rest of the project via something like the Piano Roll Editor.

2. I think what everyone's trying to say is that ACID uses whatever key the track was assigned as a base of reference (via ACIDizing). ACID does not "correct" the pitch of the loop if it's off key per se. I believe if you try to bring in an un-ACIDized sample, ACID assigns no root note.

For example, if you ACIDize a loop for the key of C (Major), ACID will use the key of C as a base of reference for stretching to a different project key, even if the loop isn't actually in C. The loop could be in A minor, for example. It's all basically relative.

Note this only applies to digital audio, not MIDI.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Reply by: oddboy

Date:12/12/2002 2:00:15 PM

I was talking about midi in # 2

what is the difference with midi?

it seems I am able to set root note and have the midi track follow project key.

Subject:RE: Theory Question in Acid?????????????????????!!!!!!

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:12/12/2002 2:38:33 PM

MIDI is just data info, a language for communication between devices. MIDI contains no actual sound (hence why a MIDI file can sound completely different on another computer). Digital audio, on the other hand, does contain actual audio.

Whoops! :) Forgive me. You can change the pitch of a MIDI track; you have to go to the MIDI track's properties to do so (under the "General" tab). The track will then stretch with the rest of the project.

HTH,
Iacobus