Subject:Backwards Guitar Effects

Posted by: NoSkippy

Date:11/22/2002 11:25:21 AM

Hello
I have been working on backwards guitar effects and would love some fresh ideas! Thanks

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: oddboy

Date:11/23/2002 5:58:21 PM

Im not sure but I think hendrix did it first-by literally rolling tape backwards, which is quite hard to replicate on the computer. go buy an old 8 track reel tyo reel and run it in your soundcard while you roll the tape. or just use reverse plug ins

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:11/24/2002 6:06:02 AM

Maybe try the "ghost reverb" effect? (Reverse a waveform, add some heavy reverb to it and then reverse the waveform again.) You'll need something like Sound Forge 6.0 or Sound Forge Studio 6.0 (or earlier), as those apps allow you to reverse a waveform.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: oddboy

Date:11/25/2002 3:36:12 AM

beatcreator

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: aek12

Date:11/25/2002 6:36:24 AM

Go into windows sound recorder... Menu-effects, and reverse... that works.

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: vanblah

Date:11/25/2002 9:56:33 AM

This is what Sound Forge is for.

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: spesimen

Date:11/25/2002 3:21:08 PM

yes. it's pretty easy to simulate the "real world" method of doing it, but there are a few steps.

1. export your song into a single wav. this is easier if you make sure it's a specific number of bars long (like exactly 34 or 97 or whatever, the # doesn't matter, but it's easier to do the later steps if it's not like 23.221 bars long)

2. reverse the wav in an editor app or one of the other major multitracks.

3. re-import that wav.

4. now, play along with it. since you can hear the song backwards, it's easy to jam along and find the right notes that will fit when you spin it forwards again.

5. export your new part - make sure it's the same length as the original one in step #1 or you will have to slide it around to make it sync right.

6. reverse and re-import the new guitar part. now it should line up just like if you had recorded it on reversed tape.

i've noticed that alternating between sustained notes and quicker trills and fills seems to give the most varied backwards parts, but it really depends on what you're trying to do - lots of sustained notes will give a 'violin' kind of sound, while fast notes through distortion will sound almost the same backwards or forwards. generally using less distortion will help since it's the decay of the sound that gives it that character when played in reverse..

i should mention that you can also just record the guitar part and flip it backwards, but then you are just guessing at which parts your backwards bits are lining up with in the forward parts. a lot of times it doesn't matter - i found that i mostly do it the easy way for short loops and stuff, but for long, involved solos playing with the backwards song makes it easier to intertwine stuff...at least it reminds me more of the old way of flipping 4-track tapes over :)

Subject:RE: Backwards Guitar Effects

Reply by: groovewerx

Date:11/25/2002 4:52:36 PM

try yale delay