rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear -ACID Product Family

Subject:rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear Posted by: ozzborn Date:11/18/2002 10:36:58 PM just want to clear a few things up problems..... vsti's and asio put considerable strain on acids engine. These two brand new additions are probably the reason for acid being as unstable and unpredictable as it is. solutions....... rewire (master) adds other programs like reason to acid. A standard project in reason (1 mixer,1 nnxt,1 malestrom,2 redrum,1 dr. rex,1 subtractor)only uses as much resources as say one or two N.I. absynth. this gives us acid users alot of flexibility with minimal sacrifice in processing power. vsti's are great,and I see the wow factor, but if the external midi was better implemented(currently no external monitoring of midi except when you hit the record button, but you can play the vsti's though ) you could open up any vsti in v-stack(which is a host for vsti and vst effects that runs one the same computer or a diffrent one.)and sequence from acid with way less strain on the cpu,especially if its on a seperate computer and giving us a more stable acid. hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! summary i love acid ,its always been one of my main apps since 2.0 (acid,reason,wavelab,waves platinum,pulsar cards,vegas) i like the new direction but i realize that this is going to be a long journey of stability issues.and i truly believe that my ideas would solve alot of problems. I just want my stable ,hassle free program back so i can focus on music again
Subject:RE: rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear Reply by: pwppch Date:11/18/2002 11:05:05 PM >>but if the external midi was better implemented(currently no external monitoring of midi except when you hit the record button, but you can play the vsti's though ) << You can monitor external midi in realtime just like VSTis. You need to set up your MIDI thrus on the MIDI prefs page. Then you start MIDI monitoring. Anything you play at your external device, will be thru'ed to your hardware ports. Peter
Subject:RE: rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear Reply by: ozzborn Date:11/19/2002 10:46:13 PM >>You need to set up your MIDI thrus on the MIDI prefs page. Then you start MIDI monitoring. Anything you play at your external device, will be thru'ed to your hardware ports. Peter could you please explain from start to finish how to accomplish this. my setup consist of : 1 midi timepiece av 2 korg karma 3 nordlead keyboard 4 planet phatt module 5 pulsar cards(which have their own midi ports that appear in the midi pref. thank you ahead of time
Subject:RE: rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear Reply by: pwppch Date:11/20/2002 10:19:01 AM - Go to the MIDI prefs page. - Check the MIDI output ports that you want to enable - Check the MIDI intput ports that you want to enable - Right click On the "MIDI Thru To" column of the input port or the "MIDI Thru From " of the output port to set up the "thru". Note that you can have many outputs recieve input from a single MIDI input. - Click OK. - From the Options menu click Enable Real-Time MIDI (Alt-F7) Your inputs are now thru'd to you outputs as you have them configured. Peter

Subject:rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear

Posted by: ozzborn

Date:11/18/2002 10:36:58 PM

just want to clear a few things up

problems.....
vsti's and asio put considerable strain on acids engine.

These two brand new additions are probably the reason for acid being as unstable and unpredictable as it is.

solutions.......
rewire (master) adds other programs like reason to acid. A standard project in reason (1 mixer,1 nnxt,1 malestrom,2 redrum,1 dr. rex,1 subtractor)only uses as much resources as say one or two N.I. absynth.
this gives us acid users alot of flexibility with minimal sacrifice in processing power.

vsti's are great,and I see the wow factor, but if the external midi was better implemented(currently no external monitoring of midi except when you hit the record button, but you can play the vsti's though ) you could open up any vsti in v-stack(which is a host for vsti and vst effects that runs one the same computer or a diffrent one.)and sequence from acid with way less strain on the cpu,especially if its on a seperate computer and giving us a more stable acid. hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

summary
i love acid ,its always been one of my main apps since 2.0 (acid,reason,wavelab,waves platinum,pulsar cards,vegas) i like the new direction but i realize that this is going to be a long journey of stability issues.and i truly believe that my ideas would solve alot of problems.

I just want my stable ,hassle free program back so i can focus on music again

Subject:RE: rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear

Reply by: pwppch

Date:11/18/2002 11:05:05 PM

>>but if the external midi was better implemented(currently no external monitoring of midi except when you hit the record button, but you can play the vsti's though )
<<

You can monitor external midi in realtime just like VSTis.

You need to set up your MIDI thrus on the MIDI prefs page.
Then you start MIDI monitoring.

Anything you play at your external device, will be thru'ed to your hardware ports.

Peter

Subject:RE: rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear

Reply by: ozzborn

Date:11/19/2002 10:46:13 PM

>>You need to set up your MIDI thrus on the MIDI prefs page.
Then you start MIDI monitoring.

Anything you play at your external device, will be thru'ed to your hardware ports.

Peter

could you please explain from start to finish how to accomplish this.
my setup consist of :
1 midi timepiece av
2 korg karma
3 nordlead keyboard
4 planet phatt module
5 pulsar cards(which have their own midi ports that appear in the midi pref.

thank you ahead of time

Subject:RE: rewire and better midi implementation for outboard gear

Reply by: pwppch

Date:11/20/2002 10:19:01 AM

- Go to the MIDI prefs page.
- Check the MIDI output ports that you want to enable
- Check the MIDI intput ports that you want to enable
- Right click On the "MIDI Thru To" column of the input port
or the "MIDI Thru From " of the output port to set up the "thru". Note that you can have many outputs recieve input from a single MIDI input.
- Click OK.
- From the Options menu click Enable Real-Time MIDI (Alt-F7)

Your inputs are now thru'd to you outputs as you have them configured.

Peter