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Subject:Long saves Posted by: jorban Date:10/30/2002 2:23:48 PM Today when my students were saving their ACID projects to their network folders it was taking an INORDINANT amount of time to complete the saves. The status bar would get to 50% and just hang there. After from 4 to 6 minutes (these were VERY SMALL project files - just a couple of loops and no more than 30 seconds total track time) then the save would complete. In a couple of cases the kids quit before they were finished. This is ACID DJ 3.0 - latest build. They were saving to their My Documents folder which was mapped to their network file share. Thanks for any thoughts. John Orban System Administrator The Country School
Subject:RE: Long saves Reply by: Iacobus Date:10/30/2002 3:15:03 PM It could've been a case of network traffic. How many students were there and what kind of connection was used (10BaseT, 100BaseTX)? Too much traffic and the whole thing bottlenecks. Iacobus
Subject:RE: Long saves Reply by: salad Date:10/30/2002 3:34:55 PM Students.....using Acid! No Way! That's got to be what it is.....the Network. I've seen this with printing and file sharing. OR, maybe one of the students installed AP4 on their machine ;-)
Subject:RE: Long saves Reply by: vanblah Date:10/30/2002 4:41:49 PM It's never a good idea to work across the network like that. The best practice is to save locally and then copy/move the file to the server.
Subject:RE: Long saves Reply by: fresnog Date:10/30/2002 9:49:43 PM I wish I could use acid with my students!!! But, alas, our school relies on Imacs. If I were you, I would have each student save his/her project in turn, one after the other. It would probably take less than 4 to 6 minutes altogether, depending on how many students you have. Many schools have modern equipment, but often times the network cabling is antiquated/outdated/inadequate for REALLY using the network successfully.
Subject:RE: Long saves Reply by: jorban Date:11/14/2002 8:31:50 AM THANK YOU ALL for your responses. I lost my message and didn't get back to it until today. I'm pretty sure now it's network traffic. I have been seeing a lot of CRC errors on the main file/print server. I think I fixed the problem but I'm still seeing long saves. I guess the program really wasn't designed to work over a network. That's the complaint I have about Super Dooper Music Looper. The lower school kids just LOVE the program, but I can't run it without the CD. So if a CD drive is broken or defective, that child can't run the program. Oh well, I've been on SF about that issue for a while now. I like the CONCEPT of saving locally and then copying back to the network, but these kids...I just don't know...it's in one ear and out the next (Jeez, I'm beginning to sound like my father). The other issue, of course, is HAYUGE files, particularly if they save their loops with their ACID project and, of course, wavs when they render them. I guess I'll just have to use file quotas to solve that issue. Anyhow, thanks for the suggestions, they were VERY helpful! John
Subject:RE: Long saves Reply by: Iacobus Date:11/14/2002 2:14:56 PM You mean you can't use the program itself without the Super Dooper Music Looper CD, or do you mean that you can't use the program because the loops for Music Looper are on the CD? (I'm not exactly familiar with this program as I use the big daddy of them all, ACID Pro 4.0.) If there isn't going to be any further mastering done on their projects, have them save in either MP3, WMA or RM formats. (Especially MP3 if they want to retain high quality.) HTH, Iacobus

Subject:Long saves

Posted by: jorban

Date:10/30/2002 2:23:48 PM

Today when my students were saving their ACID projects to their network folders it was taking an INORDINANT amount of time to complete the saves. The status bar would get to 50% and just hang there. After from 4 to 6 minutes (these were VERY SMALL project files - just a couple of loops and no more than 30 seconds total track time) then the save would complete. In a couple of cases the kids quit before they were finished. This is ACID DJ 3.0 - latest build. They were saving to their My Documents folder which was mapped to their network file share.

Thanks for any thoughts.

John Orban
System Administrator
The Country School

Subject:RE: Long saves

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:10/30/2002 3:15:03 PM

It could've been a case of network traffic. How many students were there and what kind of connection was used (10BaseT, 100BaseTX)? Too much traffic and the whole thing bottlenecks.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Long saves

Reply by: salad

Date:10/30/2002 3:34:55 PM

Students.....using Acid! No Way!
That's got to be what it is.....the Network. I've seen this with printing and file sharing.

OR, maybe one of the students installed AP4 on their machine ;-)

Subject:RE: Long saves

Reply by: vanblah

Date:10/30/2002 4:41:49 PM

It's never a good idea to work across the network like that. The best practice is to save locally and then copy/move the file to the server.

Subject:RE: Long saves

Reply by: fresnog

Date:10/30/2002 9:49:43 PM

I wish I could use acid with my students!!! But, alas, our school relies on Imacs. If I were you, I would have each student save his/her project in turn, one after the other. It would probably take less than 4 to 6 minutes altogether, depending on how many students you have. Many schools have modern equipment, but often times the network cabling is antiquated/outdated/inadequate for REALLY using the network successfully.

Subject:RE: Long saves

Reply by: jorban

Date:11/14/2002 8:31:50 AM

THANK YOU ALL for your responses. I lost my message and didn't get back to it until today.

I'm pretty sure now it's network traffic. I have been seeing a lot of CRC errors on the main file/print server. I think I fixed the problem but I'm still seeing long saves. I guess the program really wasn't designed to work over a network. That's the complaint I have about Super Dooper Music Looper. The lower school kids just LOVE the program, but I can't run it without the CD. So if a CD drive is broken or defective, that child can't run the program. Oh well, I've been on SF about that issue for a while now.

I like the CONCEPT of saving locally and then copying back to the network, but these kids...I just don't know...it's in one ear and out the next (Jeez, I'm beginning to sound like my father). The other issue, of course, is HAYUGE files, particularly if they save their loops with their ACID project and, of course, wavs when they render them. I guess I'll just have to use file quotas to solve that issue.

Anyhow, thanks for the suggestions, they were VERY helpful!

John

Subject:RE: Long saves

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:11/14/2002 2:14:56 PM

You mean you can't use the program itself without the Super Dooper Music Looper CD, or do you mean that you can't use the program because the loops for Music Looper are on the CD? (I'm not exactly familiar with this program as I use the big daddy of them all, ACID Pro 4.0.)

If there isn't going to be any further mastering done on their projects, have them save in either MP3, WMA or RM formats. (Especially MP3 if they want to retain high quality.)

HTH,
Iacobus