Subject:Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Posted by: lucys_trip

Date:10/21/2002 2:57:35 PM

P.S. I'll also be running either Windows 98SE or Windows 2000. I'm not sure if either of these OS's would be best or if anyone could recommend a better one for running Acid. I've heard that XP doesn't work well with it at all. Thanks for the help.

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: SonyNateM

Date:10/21/2002 3:53:29 PM

I disagree with that statement. XP has become the sole version of Windows I use (personally). With proper optimization and tweaking it is the most stable Windows so far, runs everything I need it to, almost never requires a reboot, and doesn't chew up extra CPU time. I couldn't imagine going back.

Just my opinion,
Nate

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: Polaris20

Date:10/21/2002 6:49:40 PM

I run a Gateway 1450LS, with a Celery 1.33Ghz and 128mb RAM (soon to be 384mb by this Friday) and I don't even use my desktop anymore for anything but laying down raw tracks.

I do all my arranging on my notebook at school and work. It rulez.

Oh yeah, the important part; I run XP Home, which it came with.

I wouldn't use 98 again if my life depended on it. The crappiest OS ever released. Oh wait, that was M(ultiple)E(rrors).

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: regencybuck

Date:10/21/2002 7:27:54 PM

I'm running a Dell Inspiron 1.2ghz/512/60mb hd /64mb Radeon7500 running xp and using a motu firewire soundcard. ACid 3pro runs beautifully. In fact so do all my audio apps. Currently have a track with 68 audio tracks 12 compressors/tc native reverb/amplitube/quadrafuzz/ohmzboys and Waves c4 and stereoimager across mix inserts running with no probs...what u waiting for

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:10/21/2002 10:42:37 PM

Second what Nate said.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: lucys_trip

Date:10/23/2002 3:34:20 AM

Just wanted to thank everyone who commented....Looks like my worries (all of em) were for nothing. I would prefer to use XP considering it's gotta be far superior to anything before it. Thanks for all the kind advice guys. I'm looking forward to moving from my current P3 550, with 256 ram desktop, to my new P4 2.4, with 512 ram laptop in the very near future....Thanks again.

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: antistar

Date:10/23/2002 3:52:12 AM

Warning!!!

My Toshiba Satellite 1800-750 with 1GHz P3, 256MB RAM, built-in Ali Audio Accelerator Sound Card has plenty of problems, while I try to work with my monster project which consists two 250MB big wave tracks, 6-7 Loops with DirectX Effects. The most worrying problems are those, that ACID consumes all my swap place (virtual memory) - 1,5MB. Oh yes, I use win2k. But I am going to quit to spend all my money to microsoft's stuff. As for the money for which you can buy an Hi-End Laptop (2.0 P4, 60GB hard drive, firewire, gigabit ethernet, 512-1024MB RAM) you could buy a MAC Powerbook, which is simply better than all that windows shit. OK, there is no ACID for MAC but then there is Ableton... also a mighty application for real musicians.

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: Polaris20

Date:10/23/2002 5:57:34 AM

"My Toshiba Satellite 1800-750 with 1GHz P3, 256MB RAM, built-in Ali Audio Accelerator Sound Card has plenty of problems, while I try to work with my monster project which consists two 250MB big wave tracks, 6-7 Loops with DirectX Effects. The most worrying problems are those, that ACID consumes all my swap place (virtual memory) - 1,5MB. Oh yes, I use win2k. But I am going to quit to spend all my money to microsoft's stuff. As for the money for which you can buy an Hi-End Laptop (2.0 P4, 60GB hard drive, firewire, gigabit ethernet, 512-1024MB RAM) you could buy a MAC Powerbook, which is simply better than all that windows shit. OK, there is no ACID for MAC but then there is Ableton... also a mighty application for real musicians."

You're basing this off of 1 single experience. Don't you think it's harsh to jump ship at the first sign of trouble?

Besides, you said Ali sound card? There's your trouble right there.

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: antistar

Date:10/23/2002 6:22:31 AM

Besides, you said Ali sound card? There's your trouble right there.
Do you know any information about the incompatibility of the Ali Soundcard with ACID?

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: Polaris20

Date:10/23/2002 6:53:40 AM

Ali stuff has been problematic with a lot of different things, just like SiS. Either one I would avoid like the plague.

I don't know for sure if that's the direct issue with Acid, but that's where I'd start.

Have you tried an external soundcard?

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: antistar

Date:10/23/2002 7:13:49 AM

Have you tried an external soundcard?
Yes I own the Egosys WamiBox (PCMCIA-Card). I've made extensive tests with it (under Windows ME), where it made ACID crash. The main issue with the Egosys WamiBox, that it has been designed for Win95/98, and its drivers are old style MME drivers, which do not work under Win2k. It has no stable Win2000/XP drivers, but they will come in the near future.
Right now, Egosys Wamibox is no choice for ACID.


Regarding the Ali Soundcards... I highly doubt, that Toshiba would sell a laptop, which doesn't satisfies some stability requirements.

But right now I have a tour with my band (dark-gothic-metal where I play the bass) and therefore I have no time to test or work witrh ACID. And I hope that the programmers (@Sonicfoundry and @Egosys) achieve some progress and in December I can work with my Toshiba-ACID4.0-Egosys bundle... :-)))))

Subject:RE: Acid and Laptops....P.S.

Reply by: Polaris20

Date:10/23/2002 1:15:52 PM

Toshiba, along with Gateway (which I own) aren't in the business of making laptops for professional audio.

While the Ali will be fine for consumer use, it is not necessarily fine for pro audio. Unfortunately no one makes a pro audio laptop, at least not that I've ever seen.

Until then, we have to live with the quirks provided to us by the OEMs.

The ASIO driver for the MBox is coming by the middle of November, and I'll be borrowing my friend's MBox to test.

I'll report back what the results are with this setup.