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Sari wrote on 10/13/2002, 12:25 PM
I have a Wami Rack 24 that I run on a PIV 2.0Ghz with 512MB of Ram. I have a dedicated audio drive. The card runs flawlessly on a well configured system.
Nat wrote on 10/13/2002, 2:44 PM
Ok here is my question. I saw on the site that the drivers are able to route input to outups and vice-versa.

I am wondering how many inputs does Vegas see. As an example, if I want to record the 6 channels of a DVD using PowerDVD, will Vegas be able to record the six tracks simultaenously, taking there is only 4 physical inputs ?
Is it possible for example to record the 4 physical inputs and some soft synths at the same time. Like 4 microphones and 2 Soft-Synths using ASIO outputs directly in Vegas ?

Thanks,

Nat
pwppch wrote on 10/13/2002, 6:27 PM
Vegas will let you record from hardware inputs only. If your sound card exposed 6 inputs (as 3 stereo pairs typically), then Vegas can record 6 mono tracks.

Vegas 3 does not support ASIO, so you will not be able to use the ASIO inputs.

Peter
ibliss wrote on 10/13/2002, 10:07 PM
I thinks Nat is making reference to the 'DirectWire' feature of the Waveterminal/wami rack. It will let you run a softsynth using the ASIO driver and internally route the ASIO output straight into Vegas using virtual routing (as well as to the hardware outs). It shows up as an extra pair of inputs in Vegas.

Mike K
Nat wrote on 10/14/2002, 12:36 AM
That's exactely what I wanted to know.
So if the card has only 4 physical inputs and I can use more with Directwire as I described in my post ?

Thanks guys
WT wrote on 10/14/2002, 5:07 AM
"Vegas 3 does not support ASIO, so you will not be able to use the ASIO inputs."

Hmm, by not saying "Vegas does not support ASIO," methinks that Peter has unwittingly indicated that Vegas 4 may be otherwise... ; ))

Interesting!

Warren
WT wrote on 10/14/2002, 5:07 AM
"Vegas 3 does not support ASIO, so you will not be able to use the ASIO inputs."

Hmm, by not saying "Vegas does not support ASIO," methinks that Peter has unwittingly indicated that Vegas 4 may be otherwise... ; ))

Interesting!

Warren
pwppch wrote on 10/14/2002, 9:13 AM
If the driver expose multiple ports with MME Wave drivers, then yes. If it requires ASIO to do this, then you will have to wait for a future version of Vegas that supports ASIO.

Peter
pwppch wrote on 10/14/2002, 9:14 AM
Yes, Vegas 4.0 may support ASIO.

Peter
ibliss wrote on 10/14/2002, 12:33 PM
"So if the card has only 4 physical inputs and I can use more with Directwire as I described in my post ?"

As I understand it from the review I read in Sound On Sound, you have:

Analog 1 + 2 (hardware)
Analog 3 + 4 (hardware)
Digital 5 + 6 (with optional board - gives you Co-ax i/o + opitical in and MIDI i/o)
Virtual 7 + 8 (any driver model Out to any driver model In)

Here's a link to the egosys page on directwire:

Directwire info

Mike K

PS looking at the example shown of recording 6 channels of 5.1 from WinDVD to Sonar, I guess you can use Directwire with all 8 i/o, but the last pair 7&8 don't get mixed with any incoming audio from the hardware inputs.
Nat wrote on 10/14/2002, 1:11 PM
Cool thanks for the help !
Nat wrote on 10/14/2002, 4:42 PM
That's pretty nice. Is this the only card able to do this ?

My goal is to record my 4 physical inputs, (guitar, bass and vox) and 2 soft synths (usualy pro5 and b4) all at the same time on 6 tracks. Would that be the only card allowing me to do that ?

Thanks,

Nat
astral_supreme wrote on 10/17/2002, 5:51 PM
"Vegas will let you record from hardware inputs only"

Can a future version alow software recording or better support waveterminals directwire feature. Also: The card lets you play 4 instruments and 2 mics at the same time (all my band needs) and it would be nice for vegas/soundforge/acid to input while recording all this info at once (but in 4 seperate tracks) instead of on a track by track basis.

I hear many people wanting to record like 4 instruments played at the same time and have each of these instruments recorded at the same time to 4 seperate tracks.

It would be nice to see some new powerful **non** loop based music creation support from vegas and acid and soundforge and some good live instrument settings/ support.

Or perhaps a simple stand alone multitrack recorder that exports directly to vegas/soundforge/acid.

The demands definately there.
doctorfish wrote on 10/17/2002, 6:20 PM
You can use the Wamirack to record to four separate tracks
at the same time. You just have to select from input
1/2 or 3/4 and then right or left when you choose
the recording input. I use my Wamirack as such all the time.

I haven't been able to get the Directwire to function in Vegas though.
When I installed the new drivers (3.5 or 3.8) to get Directwire
I lost hardware inputs 3/4. These are more important to me
than Directwire so I didn't even bother with it after that.

I did however get it working with Acid 4.0 so perhaps the next version
of Vegas will handle Directwire and still see all the Hardware
inputs. Maybe it's because of ASIO.

Dave
Sari wrote on 10/17/2002, 7:18 PM
Vegas handles directwire perfectly. I am running WamiRack 24 with latest drivers along with Vegas and other audio apps. They are very smooth. Maybe you just need to uninstall (make sure every file has been uninstalled ) the old Wami Drivers first. I had to do it twice before I had it running well.

pwppch wrote on 10/17/2002, 9:34 PM
Vegas lets you record from as many input sources that you have on your system - all at the same time to as many tracks as you desire. You can even record the left/right channel seperately.

All you have to do is add tracks set their input sources, arm, and record.

Peter
astral_supreme wrote on 10/18/2002, 2:41 AM
Thanks alot guys....still trying to get my waveterminal 192m to work good.

Question to any who can help...

there is 6 inputs and 8 outputs. The 8 out?...I am confused; do i run all of these 8 outs into one amp and the one amp into 8 speakers? or does each speaker need its own amp for 8........just wondering if any one can recommend a good output setting.
Nat wrote on 10/18/2002, 11:21 AM
You would need 8 amps, or an amp that supports 7.1 and use the SPDIF outupts.
The best choice is to get preamplified monitors... just plug it in and your're done...

Anyone can tell me if it's possible to record 6 tracks in Begas with wamirack or terminal with this config : 4 physical inputs plus 2 virtuals inputs ? (using d-wire)

Thanks,
Nat
jcarney42 wrote on 10/20/2002, 3:31 PM
Astral, you have 4 inputs not 6. Either the 4 unbalanced or 2 balanced/2 unbalanced.
The Manual explains it further.
The 2 balanced offer 12v phantom power if you have a condensor mic. In Vegas, make sure to select the windows Classic Wave Driver, not the windows sound Mapper as the interface. that will get you the best record/mix options. hope this helps.

Also, with the Waveterminal 192M, you can record at up to 24/96 (not 24/192), but can mix and output at up to 24/192. You have to move up to a Wami to get 192 A/D inputs .Still I really like this board, it has TI pre-amp chips on all the inputs to create a nice natural sound when recording. At $199.00 on the net, it's a great value. so far my drivers have been great. Haven't figured out how to even use the DirctWire stuff yet.

jcarney42 wrote on 10/20/2002, 3:59 PM
It's good to find others using this card. I was beginning to think I was the only one. Are there any dedicated forums for this card? I know this is a SoFo forum, but has anyone used it with Sonar 2. Their manual states some pretty good latency times for Sonar 2. Also, any one used the midi features. The guy I purchased it from says it will load enormous midi sample files directly from disk.

Thanks in advance