Project time/charge estimation

HeeHee wrote on 10/17/2002, 1:08 PM
Greetings to all you Pro and Pro-Am Video Editors,

I would like to get your opinion on how long the following project will take and what you, as a pro, would charge for such a thing. I was asked by the marketing department at my day job if I could do this project on the side and that I would get paid for it. I need to give them a figure, but am not sure how much.

The project is two fold. The first part is taking the raw footage (About 6 hours worth) shot at a seminar, do some minor editing, and rendering out to either VHS, VCDs or DVDs. The second part is taking clips here and there from the raw footage, doing heavier editing with effects, titling, music bed, etc... and rendering a 30 second promo type video to a web media format such as Real, Quicktime, or Windows Media.

I have been doing Digital Video Editing for myself, friends and family for a couple years now, but am a newbie when it comes to charging for it. I haven't really kept track of how long these prjects have taken in the past so your opinions on time will help a great deal. Price is relative, but will give me a starting point, hourly normal rate is fine.

Thanks in advance!

Comments

HeeHee wrote on 10/17/2002, 5:05 PM
Anybody have any tips?
jdg wrote on 10/17/2002, 5:27 PM
i charge about $100-$150/hr depending on job....
you have to consider camera/lighting rentals.
vhs/dvd duplication costs.

i would charge anywhere from 5k-15k depending on how steller they want to get. but if they wanted something quick and dirty, from $1k-3k.

good luck and hope that helped ......and it probably didn't :P
Sr_C wrote on 10/17/2002, 5:38 PM
I, myself can't speak to specific charges for such a project. Like you said, price is relative. This is especially true depending on where you live. Are you looking to get into this professionally, on a regular basis? If you are then this sounds like a great opputunity to get your name out there. What I did was, I looked up other video production companies in my city and checked out there rates. Because this is a side thing for me and I have a day job with a regular income, there is no minimum that I need to go by. It sounds like you are in a similar situation. So, I basically am doing my first several projects for free (I charge production costs only) sure I am not making any money, but I am getting my name out there and building up a portfolio. The next stage will be to charge for my services but to keep rates about half of what the going rate in town is. This, along with my portfolio, should land me new business and steal ;) from the competition. The final stage (which may never come) would be to make this a full time job, in which case I would go to rates neccessary to, of course, stay in business and live happily ever after.

Anyways, I am begining to ramble......back to your question.

If you just want this to be a one time thing then find out the going rates in your area and charge the same, get what you can for your time.

If you want to get more business like this then find out the going rates and charge at most, half of that. The company will be happy with the cost and then that much happier when they see the product finished. This will help when a need arises again for another video job. They will most certainly offer to you again.

Hope that helps some. -Shon
vicmilt wrote on 10/17/2002, 9:16 PM
Since you have no reel or professional experience, the first thing is to make sure that you are not on a serious time delivery date. Delivery pressure is brutal.

Assuming that you are not, and that you can deliver a professional product, I'd say charge $50/hr to digitize the 6 hrs of footage. Then I'd say charge $100 per hr for the 6 hrs edit job, to put the whole show together. Charge another $50/hr to layback the video to tape, and charge for the tape stock - generally a 50% markup on what you pay.

The commerical is another story altogether. It's not simply a matter of splicing a bunch of scenes in a row. You need a script. You will need music. You may need a voice over actor. You will definitely need to budget a re-edit, probably two or three of them (don't get discouraged, we all do this - recut stuff for clients).

Edit prices for this kind of "regional" stuff generally run from as little as $500 (at the local cable company, where everyone is on staff and the cable company makes their profit in time buys) to $3,000 or so. Here's the way I'd break it down for you. Script $300-$500. If you can't write, find a pro writer. Music - use buyout stock that you buy for $200 and charge $350. SF ACID is great if you have the time, talent and interest. Voice over - figure about $350 to $500 and find and pay for GREAT talent. It will make the difference in your final spot. Flat rate the edit to rough cut at $2,000. If the client turns white at this price,drop it until he's happy. You need the experience and the reel more than a rate which will cut you out. Figure re-edits at $100/hr with the client in attendance to watch you work, and to supervise what he/she wants. Final render at $50/hr and layback to tape at same rate. Deliver on DV tape and charge 50% over cost, but offer the client to bring his own stock if he wants - he won't. A local pro will probably do the same job for $3,000 flat, not including music and talent cost.
Don't whine that you've never done this before and never say "whoops". If someone is paying you money, you are a professional. Act like it. Good luck, and welcome.
HeeHee wrote on 10/18/2002, 10:41 AM
Thanks for all your posts.

Since this is my first "Professional" job and it's for the company I work for during the day, I will probably just charge enough to get a new toy for my system and cover costs(DVD burner, DVD authoring app., tapes, etc...). This way I will not feel akward for charging the company that already pays my bills and I will get some professional experience to boot.

I'm thinking about getting the new Sony DVD±RW drive. Any thoughts there? What about a DVD authoring app? Any Suggestions?