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Subject:Windows 2000 and Ripping
Posted by: AE333
Date:9/3/2002 3:03:03 AM

Has anybody found a problem trying to
access their CD burner/player when using
Windows 2000 as a client? Any solutions?

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: plasmavideo
Date:9/6/2002 3:33:20 PM

Please explain further - I might be able to help.

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: jues
Date:9/10/2002 9:47:13 AM

Hi.

Windows 2000 does not come with an ASPI Driver and as a result software can't gain low-level access to your CD-Drive. You can obtain on from here

Hope this helps...

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: Ted_H
Date:9/10/2002 2:46:10 PM

With Windows 2000 or Windows XP Professional, you will need to be logged in as an administrator in order to access CD burners in your system.

Ted

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: Evil_Silverfish
Date:9/12/2002 7:57:45 AM

Actually,, you DO NOT have to be logged in as an administrator to be able to gain low level access to CD-units so you can rip data with programs such as Audiograbber, SoundForge etc.

IF, and here is a big IF, the developer of the program during the development of the program it self does remeber to follow the guidelines on this matter issued on the MSDN (Microsoft Developer Network)

However, FEW application developers actually DO read reccomendations on HOW they should write their code to meet the guidelines, and even less care much for tweaking the installation process of their application so that sufficient set of user rights are set up to run the program properly after installation (which is odd, because the security model present in Win2k and XP has been around since the days of WinNT's first release, which was waaaay before Windows95).

Some application developers do actually think a little further than the most, and realise that in a large networked environment it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to let users have administrative rights on the client computers. One such company is the german Ahead. To their product they have a neat little Addon that can be installed, and used to set the rights for low level access to CD and CD-R units.

The neat thing is that once installed and set up, this little utility fixes the problem for all other programs like SoundForge. SonicFoundry, which constantly and blatanlty tries to blame Microsoft and keeps telling people to log on as administrators should take a good look at what Ahead has done, and think twice before giving that tedious and incorrect answer; log on as admin. In a large networked environment where the company is least bit worried abaout security, the day that users will be gaining administrative right, even if only locally, is NOT going to happen.

If ahead could do it right, so could SonicFoundry, or you think they would,,

Path to find the little nifty tool:
http://www.nero.com/en/content/c1023694368810.html#c1023694368810

If the link fails go to www.nero.com
click products then Nero, under the "Downloads" menu you will find "Utilities"
There you will find the tool called Nero BurnRights.


The ASPI drivers should not be needed at all. If your CD is connected to a SCSI card, then Win2K has allready installed ASPI drivers. Using Adaptecs ASPI drivers will just make matters worse. Adaptec and Microsoft has been at each others throaths for decades over the adaptation of SCSI device drivers. If you are unlucky, the Adaptec version of SCSI drivers can seriously harm your systems stability. And if your CD has an IDE interface, then you REALLy do NOT want the ASPI drivers.

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: jues
Date:9/16/2002 6:52:25 PM

Hey Silverfish.

Let's put it this way - before installing an ASPI layer I could not gain low-level access to my CD-Rom Drive.

After installing them I could.

Answers on a postcard...

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: Jdodge
Date:9/17/2002 4:53:42 PM

Hello, and thanks for adding to the Forum,

Sonic Foundry also has a service for site license purchasers that can be run by system administrators to enable CD extraction and CD creation under W2k and XP logged in as a 'guest' or 'user', rather than needing full blown administration rights. If you are interested in becoming (or already are) a site license holder, please feel free to contact us HERE.


Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: sven0910
Date:9/11/2003 1:41:02 AM

Hello
We have the "site licence", but can't enable CD extraction to work as "user". Is the soloution "Nero burnrights" ?

Subject:RE: Windows 2000 and Ripping
Reply by: Geoff_Wood
Date:9/11/2003 3:23:54 PM

Another thing to consider is the possiblity of your burner not supporting DAE under Win2K drivers.

Also bear in mind that W2K is not the most audio-friendly OS, even 24 bit support being flawed (truncated to 16 bit) before SP4.


geoff

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