Subject:Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Posted by: RiRo

Date:9/15/2002 9:14:59 PM

This is a copy of a post I put in Vegas Audio.

After just a night playing with Home Studio 2002, I realized that SF could beat this product pretty easily. Just re-create Vegas Audio and dump it in with Acid. Take all the Acid functions, Take all the audio functions from VV3, and make one product that has the full capability of both. The user interface is better, and with the combined power, plus a cheapie version of Sound Forge, this would be a killer audio app. As it is, to do what can be done in Home Studio takes both products, and must be swapped back and forth. I have avoided the fray of Audio Vs. Video apps, but clearly the audio strengths of Vegas could put Acid over the top. Call it Acid, or call it Vegas Audio, or call it Sonic Foundry Audio Tools, or call it late for supper... but by putting world class audio tools into Acid, the killer app would sell itself. Keep VV just like it is, killer audio and video. Make Acid/whatever a combination of midi/loops/ multi-track/editing/mixing, and the two could serve different customer bases, even though multi-track audio is included in both. The Video dudes would be happy, and the music dudes would be happy. The technology is there. The features are there. The user interface is there. Everything is there except the app.

RiRo

P.S. I just got Acid Music 3, VA 2 NR 2 and SF 6. I am a SF customer, but I must admit, having the audio tools in one package, albeit not as good as SF, is a nice touch for Home Studio 2002.

Subject:RE: Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Reply by: skysurfer

Date:9/16/2002 2:10:04 AM

Hi RiRo,

i think its better to leave Acid as it is, the concept (AS IT IS) thought out by SOFO and the way it goes in 4.0 is ingenious.
Acid should be Acid. A simple to use, very powerful tool with the possibility to paint audio and midi tracks.

You see perhaps how difficult it is to make 4.0 working as rock solid as 3.0 g so why put in there features that Vegas and Forge already have at 100% ?

Why should Acid become a bundled heavy Monster application that blows every fun factor away by its buggy complexity ?

If in 4.0 several additional features will be implemented that will make it more stable and powerful in the Midi/Vsti/Asio domain, Acid will become as it always was, but more professional, and still PURE FUN !

Subject:RE: Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:9/16/2002 1:18:34 PM

I think SoFo's approach was to make their products modular in function, not only with their own products but other products from other companies as well.

It also makes their products the easiest to work with, because each product focuses on a specific task and that task alone.

Would it be nice to have an "everything in one" app? I'm not entirely convinced. I wouldn't want to buy an ACID Pro/Sound Forge/Vegas combo just to get the (superlative) digital audio editing features of Sound Forge. That's just overkill. And I could just imagine the UI. Oy.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Reply by: Jacose

Date:9/16/2002 2:09:22 PM

In the world of 10ghz processers, 30 gigabytes of RAM and tri-monitor setups, Sonic foundry will simply HAVE to change there approach or (not to sound like maruuk) simply go out of business.

until then , Im lovin it the way it is.... rewire between Acid and vEgas would be nice tho.

Subject:RE: Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Reply by: dlcham

Date:9/16/2002 3:41:45 PM

I agree.

Subject:RE: Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:9/16/2002 3:48:19 PM

"Let Acid be Acid." Simple, intuitive, fast, stable, sonically pristine.

Subject:RE: Steinberg Home Studio Vs. Vegas/Acid

Reply by: dlcham

Date:9/16/2002 4:07:51 PM

I also agree with this...BUT, I think there's a market for a powerful, intuitive, Midi sequencer/Loop composition/Audio sequencer/wave editor. There's no reason I see that SoFo couldn't build it (the parts already exist) and sell it as a competitor to Sonar(cluttered) and Cubase (cluttered and expensive). That way, they convert Cakewalk and Steinberg customers, and Acid can still be Acid, and Vegas can still be Vegas, etc. SoFo would simply have another product in its inventory.