how do i get that "film look " from my movies?

drum5 wrote on 9/4/2002, 4:41 PM
Hi everyone i am currently using vv3 (amaizing!!) beats the pants off of premier the quality is 100% better all round,anyway the cam is a sony trv20 ntsc, i really want my movies to have that film look about them,i dont know if its the frame rate which is different or what,can anyone make any suggestions? thanks russ
(russ.chadd@btinternet.com)

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jdg wrote on 9/4/2002, 4:57 PM
try the film effects and a framerate of 24fps for starters

good luck!
Sr_C wrote on 9/4/2002, 5:14 PM
First, do a search in this forum, there have been many discussions on this topic.

Second, go to ftp://porker.sonicfoundry.com
user: dude
password: sweet

Here you will find a tutorial on simulating film. It is very helpful.

Film is not better than DV and DV is not better than film. They are just different. Some people prefer film, some DV. Hollywood for the most part is still stuck in the film world but there are some examples of this changing. The biggest of course is Episode II was shot entirely in HD. 'Amelie' was shot on film but edited digitally. In general, when people refer to the 'look' of film, I believe they are referring to something that can be closely accomplished by paying close attention to certain aspects of your project. Lighting, lighting, lighting and color, color, color. Both of these can be tweaked in post but the most important focus should be given while shooting. Good Luck -Shon
drum5 wrote on 9/5/2002, 2:46 PM
ok thanks,have you any tips on how i can tweak the frame rate without decreasing the overall quality?
craftech wrote on 9/5/2002, 5:51 PM
I have a 35mm Arriflex camera and I was wondering if any of you can tell me how to make it look like video. I also want to add some hiss to the Nagra to add to the overall effect. Any suggestions?
Sr_C wrote on 9/5/2002, 6:22 PM
Drum5,
I believe that tutorial will walk you through converting step by step to 24fps. I don't recall off hand.
pelvis wrote on 9/5/2002, 9:22 PM
craftech, are you doggin' us???

If not, tell us how many pully cables are inside your Arri and then somebody will answer your question.
John_Cline wrote on 9/5/2002, 11:30 PM
The best way that I know of to get the "film look" from video is to use "FilmFX" from www.bigfx.com. I don't believe that they have a plug-in for Vegas, but if you have Adobe After Effects or Premiere, it can be used in there.

I use FilmFX every week on a program which is seen by millions on one of the broadcast networks and no one has ever suspected that it wasn't shot on film to begin with.

John
Paul_Holmes wrote on 9/6/2002, 10:03 PM
I bought DVMovieMaker for $95 from http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm. It was recommended somewhere here in the forums. I tried the free version first and was astonished at the quality. My last movie, shot on a Sony TRV50, looks almost as good as something shot with a three-chip camera and it really does have a film feel to it. Of course, before rendering it with DVMovieMaker I used Vegas to do a little tweaking here and there, but DVMovieMaker increased the final output quality considerably.
craftech wrote on 9/8/2002, 2:01 AM
Damn!!! No one answered my question. Guess I'll have to stick with that awful film look from my Arriflex. I recently did a film on Albinos and it came out terrible because they all had warm skin tones. Maybe I'll try a polarizing filter to get the video look. You guys are so lucky, especially you Sony owners.....all those nice blue video skin tones.
John_Cline wrote on 9/8/2002, 6:24 AM
hmmm, and I thought they were blue because the studio was so cold.

John
mako wrote on 9/8/2002, 4:35 PM
For some simple effects, try this...

Use the color balance plugin and play around with the colors. Try using a more reddish tone, esp if you have a more blue tone to your footage.

Use the film grain plugin. I would use only a bit of film grain and stay away from all the corny hair, dust, scratches, etc. that they have in there (remove them all). That is just my opinion.

I don't think you can actually change the film rate of your video. Not sure there, so that might be a moot point. Obviously 24fps would be ideal, but not a necessity. I think with just a bit of tweaking, you can get a feel for that film asthetics that video, by default, fails to achieve. But as someone else stated, video is video and film is film (until we get better hardware). Hope this helps. Goodluck.
DGates wrote on 9/8/2002, 9:55 PM
It's not enough that we have to battle the Premiere, Avid or FCP crowd. Now the film guys are bugging us. Either way though, I took it for being tongue-in-cheek, and it was funny.