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Subject:Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi? Posted by: knowbody Date:8/31/2002 10:17:27 AM I'm a total beginner with midi so it's difficult to know if I'm doing something wrong or whether I've hit a bug! I understand I need to insert a patch in the list editor to get playback with a different instrument (voice). I have a 'brass' soundfont installed in bank 3 of SB Audigy Snyth A. I select this snyth on a midi track, create a few notes in the piano roll, go to the list editor and insert a patch before the first note reading: Data1: MSB3 Data2: LSB2 Data3: 2 I believe this should get me a 'Fast Falls' trumpet. What I got was one beat of piano and 3 beats of trumpet. I then noticed that in the list editor there were some extra lines in brown (my patch information was green, and the note information black. I thought perhaps this was sending some signal to cause the first note to behave differently so I deleted the 'brown' lines. I got four beats of trumpet when using the piano roll. Success? Not quite. When I tried to play back the notes in the main acid window the first note had mysteriously changed into a piano again. I don't understand. It's just the first note. If I set the notes to loop in Acid the first note sounds like a piano but thereafter it sounds like a piano. I checked all the settings I could find. Have I missed something really obvious or is there a problem? And if there is a problem, what can I do to fix it? Thanks, Chris (Hunt) PS I tried both with real-time midi enabled and disabled.
Subject:RE: Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi? Reply by: knowbody Date:9/1/2002 1:17:13 AM No replies! Did I post my original message too early in the morning? Or did it just not make sense? How can I stop the first note of a midi track sounding like a piano when I've used a patch for a different instrument? Also can I record directly from an external keyboard and have Acid recognise the patch I'm using on the keyboard. All I can get is that piano... Chris
Subject:RE: Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi? Reply by: chaircrusher Date:9/1/2002 9:20:54 AM You found a bug. I wrote up what is probably the same issue last week; Sonic Foundry is working on an update to address a bunch of issues in the first release build. I don't know a workaround; my workaround is to use Cubase ;-)
Subject:RE: Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi? Reply by: pwppch Date:9/1/2002 10:41:22 AM Yes, this is a bug. The problem is that the ordering of the events - the note on event and the program/bank change are not being ordered correctly. Q: What is the time stamp of the bank/prg change and what is the time stamp of the firt note on event? Peter
Subject:RE: Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi? Reply by: knowbody Date:9/1/2002 7:51:32 PM Thanks for posting. Time Stamp? What is this? I can't see any information in the List editor about this. Chris
Subject:RE: Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi? Reply by: pwppch Date:9/2/2002 1:15:27 PM In the list editor there is a column labled MBT. This is the measure:Beat:Tick that the "event" will play at. If you have a note on at say 1.1.000 and the patch/program change at the same time of 1.1.000, which event appears first in the list editor? The point is that if the program/patch change appears AFTER the note event, then the patch will not effect that note. Peter

Subject:Acid 4.0 Rogue Midi?

Posted by: knowbody

Date:8/31/2002 10:17:27 AM

I'm a total beginner with midi so it's difficult to know if I'm doing something wrong or whether I've hit a bug! I understand I need to insert a patch in the list editor to get playback with a different instrument (voice). I have a 'brass' soundfont installed in bank 3 of SB Audigy Snyth A. I select this snyth on a midi track, create a few notes in the piano roll, go to the list editor and insert a patch before the first note reading:

Data1: MSB3 Data2: LSB2 Data3: 2

I believe this should get me a 'Fast Falls' trumpet.

What I got was one beat of piano and 3 beats of trumpet. I then noticed that in the list editor there were some extra lines in brown (my patch information was green, and the note information black. I thought perhaps this was sending some signal to cause the first note to behave differently so I deleted the 'brown' lines.

I got four beats of trumpet when using the piano roll. Success? Not quite. When I tried to play back the notes in the main acid window the first note had mysteriously changed into a piano again. I don't understand. It's just the first note. If I set the notes to loop in Acid the first note sounds like a piano but thereafter it sounds like a piano. I checked all the settings I could find. Have I missed something really obvious or is there a problem? And if there is a problem, what can I do to fix it?

Thanks,

Chris (Hunt)

PS I tried both with real-time midi enabled and disabled.