Subject:Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Posted by: Chromaticus

Date:8/6/2002 9:51:41 AM

Hello,

Alot of friends have told me I should put my loops together on a "Loops
for Acid" cd.

If you could have any type of loops for acid cd made what would you
want?

What aspect of it would need to be unique enough to make you want to
get it?

What is the most you would consider paying for it before even thinking about looking for a bootleg copy of it?

And how many loops would you want on it 101, 500, 1000? Which is more
important quantity of loops, or uniqueness and originality qualities?

What is your primary use for loop cd's? A certain type of music production, fun, other...?

Of the following list (or add your own items) what type of sonic textures are you most looking for in a loop cd.

-Synthetic Electronic
-Acoustic Instruments
-Even more plain ol' drum loops
-Hard industrial stuff, distorted
-Standard generic pop-R&B arrangements and sounds

Thank you,
-Chromaticus

Subject:RE: Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Reply by: anon

Date:8/6/2002 12:34:12 PM

Anything with LOTS of One-Shots

Subject:RE: Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Reply by: ATP

Date:8/6/2002 1:04:29 PM

preferably single note samples, so that i can play my own stuff. this is partly why i have never used a loop cd in one of my tracks. a loop that contains a bassline AND a beat is useless to me. the other reason is that imho home made loops are more original than something that came off a cd. just my 2 cents. :)

Subject:RE: Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Reply by: Jessariah

Date:8/6/2002 6:45:34 PM

Of course, if you put those homemade loops together on a CD, then you'd have your "original" sounds.

I tend to be attracted to sounds I don't already have in my gear. The problem I see with many third-party loops is that half of them are drums, and it's all the 808, 909, DR 770, etc. -- it all seems to be rehashed from the same sources. (The other day I saw a "new release" on Ebay -- they gave a list of the instruments used in their library, and one of them was the Yamaha PSR 280...

My company is actually putting the finishing touches on our first loop library. It's called "Retro Active" and it's comprised of Vintage Synthesizer sounds. Our approach was simple: separate the elements to maximize the musicality. Too many times (IMHO), you have bass mixed with drums, or other combinations that limit what you can do. Loops should be TOOLS, not mini-music beds. You can listen to a roughly-mixed demo song from Retro Active, if you're interested.

We also included a drum construction kit using an approach we call Beat Blox, which organizes drum elements by sound and pattern.

What gets my attention, when it comes to loop libraries, is the quality and originality -- but, most of all, how useable the loops are. A distorted whale call sounds pretty cool -- but when are you going to use it?

My favorite libraries are the ones that really stand out in terms of uniqueness. Everyone has their own approach to music -- take that road, instead of trying to "copy" someone else's work. Even if it seems "rote" to you, it might very well be super-fresh to someone else.

Subject:RE: Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Reply by: Chromaticus

Date:8/6/2002 7:24:08 PM

RE:"A distorted whale call sounds pretty cool -- but when are you going to use it?"

Actually groups like Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada, Brian Eno use sounds just like that all the time and it sure in the heck makes for a much more interesting track than the same old 808 drum loop or factory sound card patch that has been used again and again and again and.....

-Chromaicus ;)

Subject:RE: Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Reply by: SPP

Date:8/12/2002 1:58:17 PM

I personally would like a CD chock full of jazz drumming...and I'm not talking about that smooth-jazz, "jazz with a rock beat" stuff either. I would like a collection of various ride cymbals with the traditional ding-ding-a-ding type pattern. Also some brush work on a snare drum. That would be very useful to me. The problem with using the one-shot samples for this application is trying to get it to really swing. It is just too time consuming and still doesn’t have a live or swinging sound. Additionally, I would like some jazz drum fills and short (four-bar or eight-bar) drum solos. So if you come up with something like this I'll be one of the first to buy it.

Subject:RE: Q:If you could have any type of Loop CD what would it be?

Reply by: Lava

Date:8/13/2002 12:02:02 PM

One-shot samples of drums, all kinds, acoustic and electronic.