Subject:MIDI with Acid

Posted by: SPP

Date:8/4/2002 1:39:35 PM

After searching through all the MIDI articles in the knowledge base, I was unable to come up with a solution. Any help would be appreciated here. What I’m trying to do is have a MIDI track previously recorded in Acid trigger an external keyboard, and then record the audio output of that back into another track on Acid. Is that possible? I think it should be. I’m using an outboard mixer in my setup, so I can’t figure out why this isn’t working. I can record a MIDI track into Acid and I can get that track to trigger alternate sounds on my keyboard. What I can’t seem to do is record the audio output of the keyboard back into Acid while it’s being triggered by that original MIDI track. I’m using the audio out of my keyboard into the mixer, and routing that signal into the soundcard. I have audio enabled in the record window (vs midi enabled). I can hear the results I want, but just can’t record them. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Subject:RE: MIDI with Acid

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/5/2002 12:22:10 PM

Hmm.

Are the monitor meters for the record window moving in ACID? If so, you might to check your soundcard's mixer itself. By default, usually the mixer is muted and/or its levels turned all the way down.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: MIDI with Acid

Reply by: SPP

Date:8/5/2002 1:10:19 PM

>Are the monitor meters for the record window moving in ACID? If so, you might to check your soundcard's mixer itself. By >default, usually the mixer is muted and/or its levels turned all the way down.

Thanks. Actually I did check all that already. The monitor meters in the record window move when a key is touched on the keyboard. When the track PLAYS, any sound I want from the keyboard is played. When I attempt to RECORD the audio, I don’t hear what I’m trying to record. I definitely have the audio-out from the keyboard going into the outboard mixer, and its output is definitely going to the sound card when the keyboard is played…just not when it’s triggered by a MIDI track. Weird. I’m wondering if I’m trying to do something that Acid doesn’t allow. Thanks for your help Iacobus.

Subject:RE: MIDI with Acid

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/5/2002 3:11:40 PM

You're welcome.

Are you able to monitor what you record from the keyboard while the project plays back without any MIDI whatsoever (triggering or otherwise)?

(I'm trying to see what happens with a basic digital audio recording setup. You should be at least able to monitor what you're recording while the project plays back.)

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: MIDI with Acid

Reply by: SPP

Date:8/5/2002 4:53:07 PM

Yes I can. When the Acid project is playing, I can monitor my keyboard either when just "playing along", or when actually recording what I play. You would think since that's the case, Acid would be able to record the audio output from a MIDI track into another track. I know that MIDI is just a bunch of commands and not sounds, but the fact that the MIDI track in the Acid project can trigger the sounds on my keyboard, leads me to believe this should work. The sounds on the keyboard aren't in the GM bank!

Subject:Got it figured out.

Reply by: SPP

Date:8/5/2002 6:01:43 PM

Well the Sonic Foundry boys were unable to figure out the problem either. Just short of a re-install I thought I’d try one more thing. I went in to Options, Preferences, MIDI, and checked only the SB Live! SW synth and my MIDI controller (Midiman USB 2x2) http://www.midiman.com/products/midiman/USB2x2.php and BANG! It works. I guess I had too many options selected and for some reason they just couldn’t get along or were confused. So that’s it! Problem solved. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to try to help me. I appreciate it.

Steve

Subject:RE: Got it figured out.

Reply by: buffalosnout

Date:8/6/2002 11:04:17 AM

I, too, have noticed irregular behavior when several MIDI ports are active. I can usually get about 2 out of 3 to play; the third one goes silent, then comes back to life after deselecting one of the other ports. With so many variables, though, it might not be an Acid bug but instead an issue related to the other MIDI devices.