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Subject:No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Posted by: Spirit
Date:7/7/2002 7:55:03 AM
SoFo isn't at Namm and there won't be an AcidPro4 announcement for a few more months at least, right ? Don't want to be too much of a pessimist but if they were going to announce it at Namm don't you think they'd at least have a booth ?I'd don't think we'll see anything now until Q1 2003. Please say I'm wrong. ( I'm holding out for AcidPro4 in the hopes it'll have decent MIDI specs and trying to bumble along with FruityLoops MIDI in the meantime. But it's an agony. I've now got a truckload of fanatstic apps and MIDI-wise I'm trying to haul them along with a three-legged donkey. Don't make me go CubaseSX or Sonar. Noooooooooooo ) |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: pwppch
Date:7/7/2002 12:35:52 PM
>>Please say I'm wrong. You're wrong. Peter |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/7/2002 7:04:52 PM
Thank you SonicPCH. Hey, you guys have to trust in what I've been telling ya for 8 straight months now--4.0 will be announced before or at (generally a few days before) Summer NAMM (watch Harmony Central), and SOFO has a wide variety of show options not involving some crowded noisy expensive booth on the floor. An offsite hotel suite is the most common, but sharing space with one of the newly-supported partners is also possible. Within a couple of weeks, we will all be hooked up with the Real World. ReWire City baby, Reason 2.0 and Acid 4.0 rendering together...sweeeeet. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: David_Kuznicki
Date:7/7/2002 7:11:20 PM
Way to tease us SonicPCH... now give us a taste... PLEASE!!! (or at least, maybe a rough ETA on the beta? ;) David. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Spirit
Date:7/7/2002 7:38:47 PM
I've never been happier to be wrong. Thanks for the info. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: billybk
Date:7/7/2002 8:02:28 PM
Wow, my palms are starting to get sweaty :)))))))))) my knees are knocking........mmmmmmmm, ACID 4.0, must be on the near horizon! Billy Buck |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: pwppch
Date:7/7/2002 9:13:53 PM
All good things come to those who wait.... Seriously, you know I can't say anything. Obviously we are working on something, but that is all I can say. Peter |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:7/7/2002 9:41:40 PM
>Wow, my palms are starting to get sweaty :)))))))))) Me 2 George Ware |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Jessariah
Date:7/7/2002 11:26:41 PM
Beta...Beta...Beta... |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/8/2002 2:15:40 AM
We've all seen the "4.0 Upgrade" page being readied on the SoFo site--I don't think there IS a formal Beta stage with this rev, or if there was, it was done on a non-disclosure basis. We're gettin a rocket bike with no training wheels inside of 2 weeks gang! And damn the bugs, that's what teeth are for. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Spirit
Date:7/8/2002 2:46:33 AM
Stop, stop, you're making me too excited ! Two weeks ?!?! |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: jonathan88
Date:7/9/2002 3:23:38 AM
Peter, can you tell us this at least? 2.0 to 3.0 somewhat of a face lift, video track, more vegas like in tracking plus general midi, not much, but hey, it sometimes works. On a scale of 1 to 10, the upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0 was about a 7.5, as it was good, but nothing really groundbreaking. Where does this release stand. And would I be stupid to assume that you would anwser anything less than a 10, perhaps an 11? (grin) But for some here to compare Acid 4.0 to waiting instead of Cubase SX, or Sonar ...ok, if that where true, SF would be very rich, very, very fast. I can dream can't I.. Peace all... |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Ted_H
Date:7/9/2002 9:31:01 AM
Patience, my friends, patience. Ted |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:7/9/2002 11:16:08 AM
That wishlist was huge with ideas for acid 4. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they got through it ALL!!! My biggest gripe is the lack of DX automation/DXi's in sofo products. If only "cakewalk" products support this standard then why should plugin developers RUSH to get out these added features in their plugins? Alot of plugins are made VST2.0,Mas,Rtas,DX8! Cakewalk and sofo need to keep each other in check so that developers see the need and will make the necessary adjustments to their production plans. Quick question...I've heard that cakewalk R&D are talking with universal audio [UAD-1] to make sure that when the Uad-1 is released for DX that it will be totally compliant[delay compensation for tracks/groups?]. Has there been any communication between sofo and UA about this. I feel that the UA card is IMHO the unit that completes my studio in terms of giving me enough horsepower to mix without restraints! And when I finish building my new computer I'll be set to not bitch about processing power for at least a year or 2 ;) !!! Please take this seriously!!! BTW...I really hope you guys added WDM driver support to the next line of sofo products. I'm using Sonar 2.0XL and can't figure why you guys have waited so long to implement it. Even DSE over at the cow "NEARLY HAD A COW" over how you guys just turn your head everytime its suggested. Please keep up! Thanks...your loyal customer. Later. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:7/9/2002 12:28:12 PM
My Wish Top 10 List again and In order 1. DXi and or VSTi (MUST HAVE) 2. DX automation (MUST HAVE) 3. Better audio engine (MUST HAVE) The rest I can live without 4. Better Midi 5. WDM or ASIO 6. Reverse sample on the fly 7. Master Track for automation 8. Pitch Envelope 9. Tempo Envelope 10 More Wishes! (HUI Support, ReWire) How about "remove vocals from 2trk mix %^&* #@ naaaaaaaa bad idea and joke"!) What do you guys think? Too much or not enough? George |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/9/2002 12:41:46 PM
Just push ReWire up near the top! SoFo would be nuts to pass on that dealbreaker. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Zang
Date:7/9/2002 12:48:42 PM
All i can say is.........woooooooohooooooo!!! |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:7/9/2002 12:57:52 PM
Hey Maruuk Do you export your from tracks Reason in to Acid? George |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:7/9/2002 1:29:51 PM
If both Acid 4 AND Vegas 4 have "rewire" support wouldn't that mean that you'll be able to have both open and route from one to the other[audio] with complete sync? That way you could spend all your time with audio in acid then go over to vegas to edit video and such. I really hope that they add "Buss automation" and extra signal routing options to the busses as well[for submixing]. Plus another gripe would be having them add the "back button" functionality that I have with my microsoft trackball explorer mouse. I mean having it function in the explorer view[like I can with folders outside of acid in windows]. So that when I'm cruising around in the explorer view in acid if I wanted to go back a step I don't have to click the "back folder button" on top. Just the back button on my mouse. Plus it works great in vegas in the timeline! I can move the cursor back and forth with either buttons by different incremental values. No go in acid. Plus a improved "beatmapper" so that you could place time adjusting markers throughout a piece of audio so that if its not in strict time you can "map it out" initially and have it come up in the timeline ready for work. Just rehashing what I've heard before and thought were great ideas. One more thing...I started a Vegas audio wishlist a while back also and that was big too. If you took both and combined them this next version of acid AND vegas is going to RULE!!!!!![since both are very similar] Later. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/9/2002 3:41:04 PM
George--I'm a fanatic about keeping all tracks separate all time, unless of course you just premix for reference to save processor cycles. My dream is full ReWire-style routing and the Holy Grail of Acid: ganged multi-app rendering through one mixer. That graintable synth, the new Orkestra Refill and full Acid power honkin away through one mixer and rendering jointly. "Are you a God?"--Gozer to Dan Akroyd in "Ghostbusters". With 4.0, we will all soon be Audio Deities flinging down sonic thunderbolts from atop Mt. Acidophilus. |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: David_Kuznicki
Date:7/9/2002 4:27:12 PM
Maruuk-- I don't suppose that you've actually recieved your Reason 2 upgrade yet, have you? I've got another 4 weeks before the damn thing ships... Seriously though-- SF, ReWire, PLEASE! I'd love to string the two apps together. I spend a frightening amount of time having to move things back and forth between Reason and Acid... |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:7/9/2002 5:16:17 PM
Hi Maruuk I hear ya. im the same way. I still render each track or loop from Reason or Sonar and fly them into Acid or Vegas. Lets keep fingers and toes crossed. George |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: Maruuk
Date:7/9/2002 9:18:37 PM
Buddy of mine's a beta tester for Reason 2.0, had it for months, in fact it's all over our new record. The Orkestra refill is truly hot--the strings are so crisp and present. And the Graintable synth is a whole other thang. ReWire Acid or bust! |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:7/9/2002 11:00:45 PM
Yea I was on the beta too. I really don't use it as much as the other guys who work here. I like it for creating parts. The new synth is pretty cool. The new sampler is nice too. Im more of a Kontakt man myself, I've been converting all my Roland and Acid one shot samples to Kontakt. That's why im really hoping that they add DXi or VSTi to Acid 4. George |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: jdg
Date:7/10/2002 4:06:36 PM
yeah kontakt rocks me hard. the modulation abilities are just insane.. tho reason2 is sweet for live stuff... |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:7/10/2002 9:17:41 PM
Just got some new info on SOFO training tour!!!! www.sundancemediagroup.com/VVtour.htm See ya there!!!!![Acid 4 YA!!!!!] |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: jack_freud
Date:7/11/2002 8:45:00 AM
We do the same thing, and I have a question for you: Do you feel that the audio sounds better in Reason than the file you import into Acid, or at least the way it sounds coming out of Acid? We're trying to figure out if ASIO is superior, or if Sonic Foundry's audio engine is inferior, or what. I've been oblivious til now, loving Vegas and Acid, but Reason sounds noticeably better... A friend uses Samplitude and said it sounded a lot better than Vegas too. Also: do you find that the loops that Reason outputs are not the exact length that they should be? In Acid it doesn't matter as much, but if I place them in Vegas and repeat them like a loop it turns out they're the wrong size and I have to trim them in Sound Forge.... |
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Subject:RE: No AcidPro4 at Namm right ?
Reply by: drbam
Date:7/11/2002 9:00:17 AM
<<We're trying to figure out if ASIO is superior, or if Sonic Foundry's audio engine is inferior, or what. I've been oblivious til now, loving Vegas and Acid, but Reason sounds noticeably better... A friend uses Samplitude and said it sounded a lot better than Vegas too.>> You say it "sounded a lot better." How so? Could you be as specific as possible? I'm really interested in this. Thanks! drbam |