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Subject:dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Posted by: djphoebus
Date:6/12/2002 11:51:34 AM

I need info on how to take a 60 min music file i recorded and place some kinda tracks into it so i can burn different tracks on a cd with out a skip in between tracks........

dj apollo

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: TeeCee
Date:6/12/2002 12:03:58 PM

Vegas. I think I read that Nero can do it if you use its wave editor or whatever it has, but Vegas is the best Sonic Foundry product to do what you want. Sound Forge 4.0 or 4.5 with CD Architect used to be able to do it, but CD Architect is no longer available and doesn't work with Sound Forge 5.0 or 6.0.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: Edin
Date:6/12/2002 12:58:43 PM

OK, here is the deal:
You need to split this recording into individual audio files (16 bit, 44.1 kHz, Stereo, WAV format). You simply open this hour-long recording in Sound Forge, select where you want to cut it, copy each selection to a new audio file, and then name those tracks whatever you want. The way you select and copy is by marking where you want to split the file (by pressing M on keyboard once you place the audio cursor to the exact spot). After you have marked each spliting spot, go ahead and double-click on the each part, right-click and say "Copy", go to the top of SF, and press the button for creating a new file, or go the traditional (harder) way; File>New, and select 16 bit, 44,100, Stereo!
Then paste the copied selection by either pressing Ctrl+V on keyboard, or just go Edit>Paste!
Save each of those files as WAV, 16 bit, 44,100 Hz, Stereo!
After that, open NERO, or any other CD-recording software, choose "Create Audio CD", or something like that, place the tracks accordingly (I think you know how to do that). In Properties for recording CD, you need to chose DAO instead of TAO (Disk At Once, instead of Track At Once). This is important, as you can't record audio tracks without pause between them, if you are not recording in DAO mode.
After that, you have to either select all audio tracks, and remove pause between them, or you can select each track individually, and do that. You may have the choice of placing number 0 for pause between tracks, or saying "No Pause" (or something like that).
Note that you can't get rid of the first pause, which goes before the first track, and has to be between 2 and 3 seconds! It will make no difference for listening CD anyways!

Now, since I have understood your inquiry differently, it might be that TeeCee got it right or wrong. Could you be more detailed? Did you want to simply split a recording you already have, in order to be able to skip through it, or you wanted to mix something in?

I hope this helped!

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: TeeCee
Date:6/13/2002 12:58:04 PM

Edin:
What you said is correct, but due to the nature of the CD structure and the fact that it is built of very small blocks, even DAO of multiple tracks does not guarantee that small gaps will not be placed between the audio. If you do it in CDArchitect or Vegas, you can make the CD sound seemless. I believe that someone recently posted complaining of this.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: dcomo
Date:6/13/2002 8:36:08 PM

Before purchasing CD Architect a few years ago (Now using VV 3.0), I did the same thing (The copy and paste method). I would say that 95% of the time, it worked flawlessly and the other 5% of the time, there was a noticable glitch between some of the tracks. I don't know of any way with just using SF alone and your typical CD burning software (Nero, Roxio, etc.) to get it perfect...

I would invest in some Pro audio burning software... It's great!!

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: Jessariah
Date:6/13/2002 9:39:11 PM

There is a way to do this in SF and another burning program. Mark each "track" you want and create a region for each. Extract the regions as separate .wav files, then load them into your CD burning software, making sure to eliminate any default pause between tracks. I've done it before and it worked fine.

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: Edin
Date:6/13/2002 11:32:49 PM

Heh, Jesariah put it in less words than I did. I made a detailed description because I didn't know djphoebus' level of knowledge and experience.

What TeeCee said here, I would have to add that you should cut your tracks where you have no sound, or the lowest volume, so that it helps against the problem with the he mentioned!

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: dej81
Date:6/14/2002 7:56:37 AM

How would one insert tracks for classical music, where all that's wanted is the track mark, but no pause in the sound (unless playback is set to pause at each track)? I'm trying the demo, so I'm not very experienced with Sound Forge, but I'm guessing that copying track contents from one file to another would be very tricky when the content doesn't pause.

Thanks.

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: inspector
Date:6/14/2002 10:52:29 AM

Before I had cd-arch and now Vegas I used a program called cdwave. It is shareware and available at http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~mjmlooijmans/cdwave/

Very simple program. You open your logn file. click where you want track and click on "split". After you have placed all the splits it will save as individual .wav files that when burned DAO leaves no pops or clicks between tracks. It splits at sector boundries. As with everything else "your mileage may vary" depending on other factors.

I am not affiliated with cdwave. Low tech solution for your situation.


Steve

Subject:RE: dj needs tracks placed in hour long demo to burn to cd
Reply by: dej81
Date:6/14/2002 12:04:24 PM

Steve,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give cdwave a try. I may be able to use both it and Sound Forge.

David

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