Subject:Vocal Enhancing

Posted by: DjXSoundz

Date:6/9/2002 3:31:54 PM

when i saw the person with the video camera down there it gave me an idea.

i record rap and RnB msuic. i use shure beta 58a's and SM57's......they are pretty good mics. i use the preamps in the Beringer mixers (luv em) and record it in acid /soundforge. using any prog (like SF 4.5 XP which i have) what are some good things to make voices "enhanced" ???

i also have clean from steinberg but it crashes a lot

thanx
DJ X

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: rraud

Date:6/10/2002 12:32:59 AM

Compression/limiting will help your sound a great deal. There is no magic pre-set that will fix all.. Expermentation is the key.
Yes, the 57s & 58s are amasing good sounding mics.... and they made their debut in 1963 or 64'. (The Shure SM-58 is almost bullet-proof.) I have never used the Beringer mixers, so I can not comment on them.

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: DjXSoundz

Date:6/10/2002 5:41:36 PM

experimentation with what?

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: vanblah

Date:6/11/2002 8:20:37 AM

compression, EQ, various other effects like chorus, reverb, delay ... try doubling or tripling your voice.

Better yet ... go to the library and look up books on recording techniques.

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: DjXSoundz

Date:6/11/2002 2:40:52 PM

doubling is my favoirte...........tripiling?

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: Edin

Date:6/12/2002 2:20:14 PM

Even quadrupling :-)
It is simply adding a more delays to your voice. The basic technique in doubling, tripling (etc.) the voice is simply mixing in another copy of your voice, which has to be a little bit different in phase, time, etc., so that you have that mutiple voice effect. The simplest one is to add a short delay(s), the more complicated is to add a short delay and some "modulating" (which is basically changing the volume of your voice couple times a second, so that it goes in and out of phase, making it sound more natural), and then even more complicated method is combining the previous two with changing parts of your voice, which is what TC Helicon has done with its VoicePrism. More info here: www.tc-helicon.tc
Note: I don't work for them, I just find it cool what their stuff does!

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:6/12/2002 9:21:31 PM

You mean there isn't a 1 button plugin to make vocals sound great? You mean you have to spend all this time experimenting and reading to get a good sounding vocal? Damn, this audio stuff is some tuff S#^t, I'm taking this sound forge program back and getting my money back, I heard it was suppose to do everything for you.
Damn Dawg, what up wit that?

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: vanblah

Date:6/13/2002 9:34:17 AM

I just finished a couple of "industrial" tracks for a guy. During the verses I had him double the vocal and harmonies, and during the choruses I had him sing it three times. The easiest way to double or triple the vocal is (you guessed it) have the singer sing the part several times. Sometimes it can be cool to do this with a copy of the track and adding delays and modulations, but sometimes you just need to cut to the chase and do it the old-fashioned way. Of course, it helps to have someone who can actually sing the same part the same way several times.

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: TeeCee

Date:6/13/2002 12:33:18 PM

See if you like the way I chorused Lenny Kravitz's voice on my remix Believe In Me. Four layers of Lenny. Many say he sounds Stevie B-ish. The download is rather big, but it should be worth it.

TeeCee

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: DjXSoundz

Date:6/13/2002 6:48:34 PM

does anybody know though if the shure mic moudeling presets help at all?

Subject:RE: Vocal Enhancing

Reply by: RiRo

Date:6/13/2002 9:33:48 PM

I had a de-sucker in a production room once. It was really a color organ, the bass freqs made the red light light up, mids made the yellow, and the highs the green. When someone said "that sucks" I'd say hmmm... you're right. I forgot to turn on the de-sucker. I'd switch it on, watch the lights flicker and flash, and most idiots would say, "wow... that thing really works!"

Maybe SF could add a de-sucker in a later version?