Subject:Can SF6 split waves at track sector limit? Nero inserts tiny gaps

Posted by: sdubose

Date:6/5/2002 5:12:48 PM

Hi everyone -- I use SF6 to split large wave files like live concerts. Set markers/regions, and export regions to individual wave files. Works great until I want to use Nero 5.5 to burn the audio CD. Apparently if you don't split the audio exactly on a "sector limit" Nero inserts silence to complete the 1/75 second block. So some track splits contain a very small, but audible silent gap. Not too cool in the live CD trading community..... :o)

My question is this: is there a way to split waves exactly on block limits using SF or do I need to bite the bullet and use Nero's track splitting feature?

thanks, ScottD

Subject:RE: Can SF6 split waves at track sector limit? Nero inserts tiny gaps

Reply by: jbrooks

Date:6/6/2002 6:44:20 PM

use cdwav, its a $10 program and makes tracking soooooo easy. you can download it at www.etree.org

Subject:RE: Can SF6 split waves at track sector limit? Nero inserts tiny gaps

Reply by: JADCorp

Date:6/6/2002 6:54:26 PM

The perfect solution to what you are trying to do is the discontinued program, CD Architect. I have used it to put tracks into 45 minute live recordings without breaking up the files at all. I am told that Vegas Video 3.0a allows placing tracks and I've actually done it on a friend's machine. CD Architect has a far better user interface for that type of work, in my opinion, since it allows importing regions as tracks from Sound Forge files. Good Luck.

Subject:RE: Can SF6 split waves at track sector limit? Nero inserts tiny gaps

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:6/6/2002 7:39:57 PM

Actually, there's a similar way to do this in Vegas also. Alls you have to do is goto the explorer window and double click on the audio file, and it will open in the trimmer window. Within the trimmer window you will now see all the regions that you created in Sound Forge. Double click anywhere between the region markers and it will automatically select the audio within the region. Now alls you have to do is drag that region onto the timeline and drop your track id by hitting the "N" key. That reminds me, there's a feature that I need to request for this. "Add as track" in the trimmer window.

Also, for the original post. In Nero, you can open the entire sound file and then place track ID's where ever you like, so no breaking up into regions is necessary. Just make sure the silence is defaulted to 0 seconds between the tracks. I'm pretty sure this works the way you want it too. I haven't tried this, since I find CD Architect and Vegas much nicer, since I can edit the audio also within these programs.

Subject:RE: Can SF6 split waves at track sector limit? Nero inserts tiny gaps

Reply by: BobMorris

Date:6/10/2002 3:06:54 PM

I've been using nero for years (older than 5.5) along with SF-XP and the full version 6 now :) to do various concerts and my own Audio tracks with and believe me I've done quite a few. I've never experienced a gap with Nero. I usually make, as I gather you do, one long full concert or track with no gaps. The only diference between myself and you is that I cut, paste to new then save each individual track rather than saving a region (i've never bothered to tried it.). And as for "sector limit" are we talking about Zero clipping? meaning, performing edits at zero-crossings and reducing the possibility of glitches in the sound file? I actually don't usually bother with this either because (correct me if I'm wrong) from track 1 to 2, and so on is continuous sound, so any 'clipping' is (or should be) non audible - but I usually always check just to make sure with media player before I burn, and correct if such a clitches exists with a Zero.
And as for burning with Nero, I just dump them all in the window, make sure the the PAUSE on every track is set to '0' (for continuous music) except for track one where it has to be set a 2secs, although you can overide, some CDs (erm mine actually) will miss about the first second of track 1... so that's true, and nero will give you a warning.
Summing up I'm not sure where you are going wrong...