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Subject:Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Posted by: tvos
Date:5/30/2002 9:53:01 PM
Acid Pro users.... Anyone here run into any problems during recording sessions at times the application Acid 3.0 not responding? I'm using WindowsXP Professional and here's my system specs 2.0Mhz Intel 1 gig of ram 2 (40) WesternDigital eide hd Creative Labs Soundblaster Live I've tried updating the patches and also went into Acid Pro 3.0 properties and changed the compatiblity to Win98. Still no luck. I'm thinking of re-imaging my pc but before doing so thought I would give this a shot. Please advise Send me email at: tvos@ureach.com Thank You, Dave |
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Subject:oh God help me..
Reply by: johnnyangel
Date:6/2/2002 1:53:34 PM
i have windows xp home edition on a brand new computer, and i've run into that problem. it used to be random, here and there, but now as soon as i open it it barely responds. i really really really need to record this instant.. but my brand new copy of acid on my brand new computer does not work. i am dying here. but i haven't got any advice. (by the way.. i'm using acid music, not acid pro. similar problem, tho) |
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Subject:RE: oh God help me..
Reply by: TeeCee
Date:6/3/2002 7:49:21 AM
tvos: Acid has been created with WindowsNT in mind which means that Win98 compatibility may reduce performance. Quick thoughts, if your hard drives have spun down and you start recording, perhaps you are running into an issue as the hard drives spin back up. I don't personally record into Acid, ever. I do all my recording in either Sonar or Sound Forge. TeeCee |
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Subject:RE: oh God help me..
Reply by: tvos
Date:6/3/2002 6:27:14 PM
Acid Pro Users, I believe that my problems with recording with AP might have been a result to applications that I've in/de-installed. A friend of mine was telling me that games have a tedency to screw up the audio drivers/video. I had a base image of my XP that I installed prior to adding applications. So far I've installed AP + SF 6.0 and it seems steady (knock on wood ehh). I also upgraded the AP pro client ver to 3.0g build. We'll see what happens down the road - but in the meantime hopefully this will be resolved.. Good luck to all... Btw: any bass guitarists out there or percussionists interesting in working on a double cd project with me? The music style is hard rock - Rush/Journey with various of other influences as well.. Email me if interested: tvos@ureach.com The Voice Of Silence |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: tvos
Date:6/6/2002 3:46:15 PM
Problems still persist. I think it could be a IRQ sharing the video card and audio card as well. Will look into this and see if I can re-assign the resource. Other then that any other suggestions? Dave |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: jsv
Date:6/6/2002 4:01:59 PM
Hi tvos, I have the same problem during recording sessions but also during the playback of a track with a lot of large files and lots of DX effects. I own a AMD 1700+ 512 mo DDR and W2000 and i've tried to tweak my system in lots of ways for 1 month but in vain. I've seen a lot of people in the forum complaining about similar problems and diferent computer set-up (intel, AMD, W98,wME,XP,2000...) So i came to the conclusion that the Acid 3.0 is buggy and that unfortunatly there is nothin' much to do but using another app to record properly. Sorry to be so negative but I'd like to avoid you wasting your time in searching for a solution... |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:6/6/2002 8:29:45 PM
I dunno. I never really had any problems recording. I'm using a PIII 800EB MHz with 384 MB PC133 SDRAM, an ASUS CUSL2-C motherboard, Windows XP Home and both an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 and an M-Audio USB Duo. (Note this is a custom-built system I assembled myself.) Maybe the soundcard is the link? I don't want to be the one to cause a riot, but quite frankly, one is wasting some of ACID Pro's power by using an inferior Soundblaster card. Soundblasters are for games and not for making music; I don't care how much Creative crows about how it's for musicians too. They're noisy and they don't do true 24-bit/96 kHz. About the only thing useful about the SB line is Soundfonts. You might as well apply the "ACID is buggy" thing to all music apps, since I contribute to another forum where users are using other programs, like Sonar, Cubase and Logic. They complain of similar issues. Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Spirit
Date:6/7/2002 12:22:20 AM
It's the smoothest music app I have and it runs on a 1.8 P4 XP Home. If only all apps were this smooth. But then this is a dedicated music PC - no internet - no games - and a US$1000 soundcard . . . |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: groovewerx
Date:6/7/2002 1:10:45 AM
i've said it before and i'll say it again: "using a toy soundcard on an audio machine is like putting bicycle tires on a kenworth." |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: jsv
Date:6/7/2002 6:16:28 AM
1.I use the Echo Mia sound card (24-96) which I think is not to be put in the same category that the SB range, it's similar to an Audiophile with better A/D converters 2.(for me at least) Cubase much more stable and i don't get any crackles in my recordings in 24 bit! 3.But i love the interface, the ease of use and the possiblities of Acid that's why I keep on reading posts on this forum with the hope to find a solution even if i'm a bit desprate now... |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Spirit
Date:6/7/2002 8:35:37 AM
What exactly is the problem ? "Application not responding" ? When does this happen ? Is there anything secific that causes it, maybe a plugin ? Or is there anything you do that seems to prompt it, or even make it more likely, ie a specific editing or recording task ? Does it happen with the same frequency, or just randomly, ie: can you go for a week and it's OK or is it inevitable every session ? Does it only happen on large projects ? What happens after you get this message ? Are you frozen etc ? What has SoFo said ? Do your other apps run OK ? Have you always had this problem or did it just "start happening" one day ? If so, when ? Do you get any other errors with Acid ? Did you get the same error on another version ? Have you done a clean re-install of your OS, then just load Acid, test it, then load your next app ? etc more info needed ! |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: jsv
Date:6/7/2002 10:13:09 AM
Thanks for answering!!! I get a message saying "acid.exe has generates errors and will be closed by windows, a log file is been created" then the app is shut down without leting me a chance to save my work. I couldn't found the log file anywhere on my PC It can happen during the playback, if i point a specific place where the playback should start, if i add DX effect to a track. But all this is not causing Acid to crash every time. I could not norrow a specific cause expect : large project, lots of DX effects, and on Acid 2.0 project converted to Acid 3.0->I never thought about this particular reason before, maybe I should try to rebuild the song from scratch in Acid 3.0... I always had this problem with 3.0 but never with 2.0 The other problem i have is clitches in the recordings in 24 bit which i don,t get in Cubase. I installed acid on a brand new computer with a freshly installed OS (W2k) My other apps run ok (cubase, fruityloops)execpt for sound forge 5.0 that have the same problem but with very rare occurence. My system : AMD 1700+, 512 Mo DDR, Seagate 80 Go, Echo Mia sound card, Winfast geforce 2 MX64 graphic card, Win 2k SP2. PS : During the play back of the songs that cause the crash my cpu usage is about 40% and 60% of my Ram is free. |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: jsv
Date:6/7/2002 12:23:48 PM
I managed to solve my "clitches in 24 bit" ithink by changing my temp folder on the D drive wich is much faster than de C: (Anakyse of the speed provided by easy CD creator performance test) and finaly it works! |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: itz420jr
Date:6/7/2002 10:25:08 PM
whats up MD... i am using acid pro 3.0 as well with a P3/1gig/256mb SDRAM pc133. Audiophile 2496 very nice card for the money i must say. been thinkin about upgrading from ME to XP. i was curious as to what AP 3 build are you using? |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:6/8/2002 11:25:52 AM
Hey itz420jr, Using the latest version (3.0g Build 265). If you do upgrade to XP, be sure to pick up the latest drivers at Midiman's site, as Win XP does not have native drivers for the Audiophile out of the box. Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Spirit
Date:6/8/2002 11:56:26 AM
JSV, Many people swear by 2000, but I've known several people who had nothing but problems running audio (not Acid though) on 2000 until they switched - ME, 98 and XP all seem to be more stable music OS - IMHO (note: IMHO !). Have you tried reinstalling Acid, defragging etc, all the usual things ? I'd also try to build a test project without any effects. See at what point or with what operation it fails. Are you using any third party effects ? Which ones ? And the usual warning about warez - even if they're not actively being used they can cause strange problems after overwriting other apps' files... (I'm not implying anything here, just mentioning) Does SoFo have anything to say ? And your Acid 2 projects make me suspicious. Does this problem happen only when you are running multiple apps, or can it happen anytime ? It's also suspicious that the same problem happens with SF. Makes me think that maybe there is some other app on your machine which the SoFo products just don't like and which perhaps has overwritten some file. What have you installed since Acid & SF ? I know this is more questions rather than a lot of answers, but your objective is to try to zoom in on the problem, eliminate possibilities and see what's left... good luck |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: tvos
Date:6/8/2002 12:38:43 PM
Hey All, It seems that my recording problems are less then usual now. But what I've noticed is this. If for some reason the tracks in AP3.0g are offline and I try to record the program will not respond and then end itself upon request. I did update my video drivers and soundblaster drivers. Now, it seems the couple of problems after doing a little tweeking of my system and with acid pro is that it generates a error at startup but undertermined. And the second error is when I goto record at various takes, it won't play the first 3 beats which throws me off. Sometimes it plays the first beat and sometimes it will start on the 3rd. Here's my system specs: 2.0 gighertz intel cpu Asus motherboard 1 gig of ram 2 (40 gig) hard drives western digital G force 64mb ddr video card 10/100 Intel Nic Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live Ct4760 Dvd Rom USB 2 Just a few short comments of the previous posts. It really doesn't matter what hardware you prefer. If it's the soundblaster or Audiophile 2496. It's the end result the person is happy with. Sure I could have gone with a expensive card, but I'm very pleased with my recording projects without a doubt using my soundblaster live. Anyways, the whole reason for this form is to help those that are having problems - not cause more --> Any ideas friends?> Dave |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: itz420jr
Date:6/8/2002 7:18:03 PM
hey md, good lookin out on the drivers. i'm waitin to get my new western digital 80 gig hard drive before i do the upgrade. but when i do i'll let everyone here know about any probs i might encounter. tvos....sorry yer havin probs bra....my best advice is to ya is...uninstall and re-install....make sure everything else on your computer is working right before you lose yer mind just lookin at acid pro for answers ya know. check for a virus...i try not to run ANY other apps. when messin wit acid. unless i absolutely have to. i haven't run into probs right on start up(knock on wood) but the other thing about missin the beats...this mat sound stupid but you should really check to make sure that your recording starting point is correct...i tend to do that sometimes if im movin a lil' to fast. if i'm not understanding yer problem or you've done this already my bad....ima stoner shoot me. jus curious why haven't you contacted SF for support? shouldn't be able to help you on this? rob |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Spirit
Date:6/8/2002 8:48:08 PM
I get the delay at startup recording too. It doesn't really bother me though because I just loop the section I want to record over and wait for the right spot to come around again. That way I'm more in the groove anyway. I'm guesing that the startup lag has to do with latency... The Synths I use from the PulsarII card operate at 7ms latency, whereas AcidPro is communicating with the card via wave drivers which are rather slow (certainly compared with ASIO) |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:6/9/2002 2:45:55 PM
That actually happens to me too. I get a slight delay sometimes when I start a project. Usually, just stopping, waiting a couple seconds and then starting it again clears it up. Oddly enough, this happens more with my Audiophile 2496 (which is a PCI card) than my USB Duo (which is a USB audio interface that's new and has only one driver revision). You'd think going at full-tilt 24-bit/96 kHz would make the Duo choke a little, but wonders will never cease. :o) Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: DjXSoundz
Date:6/9/2002 3:35:42 PM
by the way if u spent money buiying acid pro dont use a Soundblaster Live.....get a audiophile.....or better yet a ECHO MIA (cuz its balacanced like XLR or TRS) DJX |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: jsv
Date:6/12/2002 5:53:24 AM
Hey DjXsoundz, I'd like to know what excatly is this balanced thing on the ins and outs of the MIA??? I read it on the manual but my english is not that good and I'm a bit confused... I think I'm missing something crucial here and your help would be much appreciated!!! PS : I noticed that i could only hear the sound on one side if i used the jacks so I bypassed the problem by using the digital out to conect to my hi-fi amp. |
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Subject:RE: Windows XP + Acid Pro 3.0
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:6/12/2002 8:40:51 PM
A balanced connection insures no interference will occur from external sources. For 1/4" connections, this is also referred to as TRS (Tip Ring Sleeve). (An unbalanced connection is usually referred to as TS (Tip Sleeve).) Iacobus |