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Anyone else notice this behavior, and if so what OS? Seems to be happening in XP and the result for me is that video preview on external monitor is jerky at times. Print to tape is just fine.

-Doug

If you preview (play) files in the Media Pool (or have "auto preview" on), or if you use the trimmer and have external monitor enabled, that file will be fed to the Vegas monitor, and on out to external monitor if enabled.

The problem, or at least an annoyance, is that when switching focus from track view to trimmer the firewire blanks and takes several seconds to reinitialize and display the timmer. It's aggrevated because hitting space to play a segment on the trimmer and then stopping playback (space or enter), the preview window jumps back to displaying the timeline even though the trimmer still has focus. So when you hit play again on the trimmer, there is once again a 3-4 second pause before the firewire preview kicks in. You can play during this time but you'll hear audio with no video.

I do think the firewire delay issue is more to do with XP and/or DirectX8.1 than VV; it's just made worse because when you stop trimmer playback the video preview jumps back to the timeline.

Hope that makes sense! I'd love to know if anyone else using firewire preview while editing notices any delay in initializing the video stream, and what OS you're running.

-Doug

I have strictly the same problem on Win98, Win2K and WinXP :-((((

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No answer from Sonic Foundry ????

I have the same problem with WinXP, Athlon XP 1800, Gigabyte mobo with AMD chipset, 1GB DDR RAM, and three 7200rpm harddrives.

It doesn't happen if I use the arrow keys (or Contour Shuttle Pro jog wheel) to scrub the video in the Trimmer, but this method doesn't play the audio.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention- we'll look into it.

2.0h doesn't reset/blue screen the OHCI buss between timeline and trimmer. 3.0a is clean also when you only use the play button to start trimmer action. That was the only way in 2.0, btw. Now we have a trimmer scrub feature that shows an image on the ext. monitor while scrubbing with drag or arrows and holds a picture when you stop. Great upgrade. But along with it is the 3-4 sec. blue screen issue. More good than bad in my book, hope we can get it all tho. ;- )

Craig H.

2.0 is clean from timline to trimmer playback with timline playing or paused.
3.0 is only clean if timeline is playing when hitting play in trimmer. If timeline is paused, you get the delay/glitch. Hope this info helps.

Cheers,
Craig H.

This is high on my wishlist of fixes at the moment; it's hard to use the external monitor feature as it stands right now.

-Doug

Doug, what are you using for a graphics card ? Dual monitors ? What OS ?
I ask because I do most of my editing with a preview window via my Nvidia Geforce 2MX Svideo output. It's twice the framerate of OHCI, never does the blue screen crud, color is almost dead on, brightness and gamma are also amost dead on, size is close to full screen - all action safe area, lets me drop to 360x240 to gain framerate, use of safe titling overlay, easy on the eyes frame based playback. For field jitter checking, full screen and problem colors I click to ext. monitor and flip a Svideo switcher and I'm looking at full NTSC.
These cards only go for $50.00 now. Newer Geforce 4MX should be faster, starting at $89.00. There is the chance that the 4xxx series ($250.00 +) of G4s would let use use two vga monitors AND the tv output. VGA out, DVI out to VGA adaptor, Svideo output. That would be the a great setup. There also may be a way to get Vegas to spit out a DV stream and have the card spit out 720x480 interlaced like it does for DVDs. The web site hints of programs being able to tap into the new interlaced tv output unit.
I'll be getting one or the other soon.

Craig H.

Hi HPV - thanks for the suggestion. I used to run an AGP ATi Rage 128 with a PCI Geforce2MX; however with a new system I now run dualhead using a single Radeon 8500. It works very well. I have a third monitor (tv, really) connected to a Sony DVMC-DA2 for external previewing, so that makes 3 displays. I find with two monitors there's just enough real estate to have the preview window open anyway, but previously I've been very used to relying on the external monitor. It is slower to render on the fly, for sure, but with my Athlon XP 1800+ I can still push 10-15 fps during a transition out to firewire.

-Doug

Was there ever resolution/fix to the 3-4 sec Blue screen delay when switching between trimmer display and external monitor display? This (minor) issue just crept into my editing situation.

thanks

I'm still waiting too..nice to see this bumped once in a while to the top.

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HPV: this is a little off topic, but I'm deciding on a graphics card for VV3.0. I want to use a TV monitor for previewing but Sonic Foundry's documentation indicates that only IEEE1394 cards with video out, or a graphics card with TV out that supports "Video for Windows" will work. I'm not having much luck with either. Your GeForce 2MX show up as a "Video Device" in "Preferences"? And I gather that that works fine for previewing from the timeline?

I can pick up a GeForce 4MX420 with S-Video out for under $80. Sound like a match?

Thanks.