Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.) -ACID Product Family

Subject:Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.) Posted by: Rabid Date:5/24/2002 8:56:07 AM I have been trying to mangle slices of Acid loops and am not having much luck. Playing with Phatmatic Pro gives me great results but that program does not have a save or export feature that lets you save the loop. You have to record the output to HD as a non-acid wave file. The chopper feature in Acid Pro 3 is fine for converting wave files to Acid but does not seem to help me reach my goal. I have SoundForge 5 but it does not let you “easily” select slices, or move from one slice to the next. Playing the file so you can hear what you have done to the loop seems to take you back out of chopper mode and you loose your slice selection. Does anyone know a better way to mangle and save Acid loops? A few of the things I would like to do is… Reverse a slice. Add and effect to a single slice. Copy and past slices. (For some reason I can copy a slice in Acid’s chopper section but not past it.) Rearrange slices while keeping the feel of the loop in tact. Is any of this addressed in SF 6? Thanks for any help. Robert
Subject:RE: Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.) Reply by: Iacobus Date:5/25/2002 1:49:38 PM Try this: -Use the Chopper to select a portion of a loop and draw/paint it onto the timeline. Do this for as many times as you want. -Solo the track. Place the Loop Region around the chopped sample(s) you just made. Use CTRL+M to render this sample to a new track. (Be sure to tick the "Use loop region only" option.) -Right-click the new track's track icon/name in the track list and select, "Edit in Sound Forge 5.0". Mangle as preferred (including using the reverse effect). Save in Sound Forge 5.0. -Switch back to ACID. The contents should now be updated. Nonetheless, double-click the track's track icon and click the "Reload" button to have ACID reexamine the ACID properties of the file and adjust itself accordingly. That should do the trick. NOTE: When you save in Sound Forge, you cannot undo what's been done. Be sure the sample is the way you want it before saving. You cannot paste in the Chopper itself because the Chopper is simply a tool that takes a sample and lets you arrange it on the timeline. Let me know if that worked for you. HTH, Iacobus
Subject:RE: Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.) Reply by: waynegee Date:5/26/2002 11:18:49 AM Hey, Even tho I use Acid/Sound Forge for most of my audio mangle tasks the best tool I've found which will do EXACTLY what you listed is BeatCreator by Zero-X(http://hem.passagen.se/novelty/index.htm) It is the 89$ I've spent. It makes ReCycle look silly...in fact, I haven't used ReCycle since I got it. Check it out. If you have any questions, email me waynegee@hotmail.com. Ciao for now...

Subject:Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.)

Posted by: Rabid

Date:5/24/2002 8:56:07 AM

I have been trying to mangle slices of Acid loops and am not having much luck. Playing with Phatmatic Pro gives me great results but that program does not have a save or export feature that lets you save the loop. You have to record the output to HD as a non-acid wave file. The chopper feature in Acid Pro 3 is fine for converting wave files to Acid but does not seem to help me reach my goal. I have SoundForge 5 but it does not let you “easily” select slices, or move from one slice to the next. Playing the file so you can hear what you have done to the loop seems to take you back out of chopper mode and you loose your slice selection.

Does anyone know a better way to mangle and save Acid loops? A few of the things I would like to do is…

Reverse a slice.
Add and effect to a single slice.
Copy and past slices. (For some reason I can copy a slice in Acid’s chopper section but not past it.)
Rearrange slices while keeping the feel of the loop in tact.

Is any of this addressed in SF 6? Thanks for any help.

Robert

Subject:RE: Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.)

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:5/25/2002 1:49:38 PM

Try this:

-Use the Chopper to select a portion of a loop and draw/paint it onto the timeline. Do this for as many times as you want.

-Solo the track. Place the Loop Region around the chopped sample(s) you just made. Use CTRL+M to render this sample to a new track. (Be sure to tick the "Use loop region only" option.)

-Right-click the new track's track icon/name in the track list and select, "Edit in Sound Forge 5.0". Mangle as preferred (including using the reverse effect). Save in Sound Forge 5.0.

-Switch back to ACID. The contents should now be updated. Nonetheless, double-click the track's track icon and click the "Reload" button to have ACID reexamine the ACID properties of the file and adjust itself accordingly.

That should do the trick. NOTE: When you save in Sound Forge, you cannot undo what's been done. Be sure the sample is the way you want it before saving.

You cannot paste in the Chopper itself because the Chopper is simply a tool that takes a sample and lets you arrange it on the timeline.

Let me know if that worked for you.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: Editing at the slice level. (Mangling loops.)

Reply by: waynegee

Date:5/26/2002 11:18:49 AM

Hey,

Even tho I use Acid/Sound Forge for most of my audio mangle tasks the best tool I've found which will do EXACTLY what you listed is BeatCreator by Zero-X(http://hem.passagen.se/novelty/index.htm) It is the 89$ I've spent. It makes ReCycle look silly...in fact, I haven't used ReCycle since I got it. Check it out. If you have any questions, email me waynegee@hotmail.com. Ciao for now...