cracking and scratching in vegas

trwk504 wrote on 5/16/2002, 12:48 AM
I'm encountering a very frustrating problem whenever I try and record in vegas. I get all types of noise whenever the signal rises above about 25dB. I am using an M-Audio Delta 44 sound card, and have spoken with them about the problem, but because I don't get this noise in other programs(pro tools), they're convinced that the card is not the problem. The driver is updated and the card is on it's own IRQ, so i'm pretty convinced as well. So I was wondering if anyone had ever had the same problem or knows the solution to it. I am using a Dell Dimension 700mhz with 98SE...PLEASE HELP!
Thanks,
Tim

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Former user wrote on 5/16/2002, 10:59 AM
Tim,

I have seen this one a million times. But I will need some more info. When did it start happening? What Delta driver are you using (version number please). Let's start with this data and then move on...update when you can.

Cheers,

Cuzin B
longb wrote on 5/16/2002, 11:33 AM
go to this link:

http://www.prosoundweb.com/recording/articles/tascam/pc_6.shtml

the screen that comes up is only page 6 of 10, as you turn the pages you will learn how to optimize your system for audio. I can almost guarantee that you will learn something that will help solve this problem.
trwk504 wrote on 5/16/2002, 6:48 PM
Cuzin,
The problem has been there ever since I installed the card. The driver I have right now is the most current one #4.13.01.0041 The real kicker is that I don't get the problem in sound forge, which considering that it's made by sonic foundry as well, you think I would have the same troubles...thanks for any help you can give me.
Tim
Former user wrote on 5/17/2002, 9:14 AM
Hmmmm....well since you are running Win98SE, I would scour the Delta/M-Audio site and try to find the 98 driver with .27 as the last number combo. That one has been known to work just fine.

Have you adjusted buffer size and other settings in Vegas? Remember too that comparing runs in Vegas and Soundforge are not really helpful, since Soundforge is only always running a two track stream while Vegas is a much more demanding. I doubt if you could get Soundforge to crackle at all.

Let me know what you find out.

Cheers,

Cuzin B
MikeM wrote on 5/17/2002, 3:37 PM
Yeah, I've got it too. Doesn't happen all the time, but often enough to make the trial version I dl'd useless. I'm using a Delta card as well, the 2496, but it only happens with Vegas. I've tried Goldwave, Protools, Cooledit and it never happens with them. I've gone through the IRQs etc with the Delta folks, have the latest driver from the website, etc, etc. I've tried running System Monitor while recording and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with CPU usage I've seen CPU usage hit 100% for a brief period and not get the noise, and I've gotten the noise when the CPU usage never went over 80%. I'd love to figure it out cause I like the program and a friend uses it. We'd like to collaborate...

Mike
trwk504 wrote on 5/17/2002, 10:53 PM
Mike,
I'm in the same boat man. Every other program that I use works trouble free, but it's something about the vegas family products that the card must not like. It doesn't happen to me all the time either, but atleast 90% of the recording i try to do are drapped in noise. I have found that the sonic foundry click and crackle removal plug-in can get rid of the noise, but it really screws the up the overall sound of the track. But honestly, I don't think that this is normal. If you happen to find a solution to this problem let me know, and i'll do the same.
Tim
Former user wrote on 5/18/2002, 12:41 AM
Guys,

Well...I had this problem for about 5 minutes running Win 98SE. Then I upgraded to Windows 2000 and smooth sailing. There has been heavy documentation on the Win 98 Delta Drivers and if you are not running 4.1.22.27, then you will have problems.

I still believe this is not a driver issue but a config issue on the workstation. In my experience (and trust me - I hounded Sonic Foundry for months on this), in the end there was nothing wrong with Vegas - it was my config, drivers and environment that was causing problems. Since the WIndows 2000 upgrade, I haven't had so much as a peep from any of my apps in months. They just work. So it can be done.

Cheers,

Cuzin B
drbam wrote on 5/18/2002, 8:44 AM
I've been using 98SE with Echo Layla interface(s) in every version of Vegas since its inception and never have experieced what you describe here.

drbam
MikeM wrote on 5/18/2002, 11:39 AM
Tim,

Well, I thought I had a workaround using a shareware program called NTrack that seemed to put out wav files that lined up well in Vegas. Then I got the crackling in a track using NTrack. I went and traded in the Delta card, having convinced myself the card was bad. New card (same model), same old problem. I've tried everything I can think of, including fiddling with my video settings. I'm going to look for the drivers that CuzinB refers to, then, if that doesn't work I'm going to try putting the card in my wife's computer. Her's is a bit older and slower, but it should be good enough for a test, and hopefully to get the damned song done by Tuesday!!! I also may try Windows 2000. And after my deadline has been met, I'm switching to Linux!

Will keep you posted.
Mike
MikeM wrote on 5/18/2002, 2:46 PM
Hey, CuzinB! You da man! I just dl'd the older driver and installed it and I've been recording multiple takes til they're coming out my ears. No static! Someone needs to tell the folks at Delta...

Thanks
Mike
Former user wrote on 5/18/2002, 2:55 PM
MikeM,

Well - there ya go. Folks at Delta already know about this but I believe that their latest drivers either A) Have some other issues or B) Delta is gearing these drivers to the latest nad greatest hardware out there. There is no reason the latest ones should not work but I went through this about a year ago and the same thing happened - the latest drivers did not work as advertised....however this .27 release seemed to work just fine.

I left them all behind by moving to Windows 2000. No pops or cracks or anything with Win 2K and the 5.10.0.26 driver set. However - I see there is a new set of drivers for me to download right now...I will let you know how that goes...

Primary rule for this: Find a set that works and stay with it. Don't update just cause there is somehting new out there.

Cheers,

Cuzin B