<When you play, the track that you want to process will be routed to the outboard unit, processed & then returned to be recorded onto a new track. You will hear the EFFECTED version of the track. If you want to compare Effected to Uneffected versions, simply change the routing of the buss between digital and analog. Of course, this assumes that you can route a digital signal thru your effects unit.>

You can obviously do this the old analog way as well if you use an external mixer. In most cases I just record the efx return signal (either from one or more tracks) into a new separate stereo track ("print the effects"). This gives me more flexibility later when working on the mix.

drbam

Jeff,

Thanks for the update. I will keep working at it...still can't get the patching right...I have a call into M-Audio...maybe they can help me figure it out.

Cheers,

Cuzin B

If you can play and record at the same time then this is simple. The SPX-90 is a mono in/ Stereo out unit, so you probably want to render your stereo track to mono first. If your Delta has an option to route input signals to the outputs, then disable it, this will only cause confusion. Solo the track you want to use as your dry signal. You can send it directly out the Master mix buss this way. Then feed the master mix bus coming from your Delta into the mono input of the SPX-90. Now plug the outputs of the SPX-90 into 2 inputs of your Delta. Arm a stereo track for recording in Vegas that will be fed from those Delta inputs. Goto the SPX-90 and make sure the "MIX" is set to 100% wet. Hit record on Vegas and you will record the outputs of the SPX-90. You can now mix your Wet and Dry signal in Vegas. You can't route a digital signal to the SPX-90 because it does not have a digital Input. I'm surprised your SPX-90 works. I'm very familiar with this unit, and own 2 of them. Both of them have burned out power supplies and have been collecting dust for 4 years now. If anyone knows, where I can get some inexpensive power supply boards for these then let me know or else, one of these days when I get some free time I will have to go out and build my own power supply for these things.

Here's what I did with my Omni (which I haven't had long, so I'm just kinda playing here):

Direct Out 1 (and 2 if you have a stereo signal to process) to the FX box, then back into the "Line Input 3" (and 4 if stereo). Add an audio track to Vegas and pick "Delta 66 3/4" for the record track (right click on the track or Arm for record and then pick it from the quick list next to the record button). Set your main output (stereo bus A if you only have one stereo output bus) to "Delta 66 1/2", and add your preprocessed track into vegas, outputting to your main output bus (whichever one is directed to the 1/2 out). Arm your input track for recording, and go.

My input levels seemed a little low on the record track, so I may still be off on something somewhere, but this did work at least. Start with this and once you get it working start experimenting from there.

>>...still can't get the patching right...I have a call into M-Audio...maybe they can help me figure it out.<<

Say, Cuz.....
Sounds like you have a DigiPatch. What is it that you can't figure out?

JL
OTR

RednRoll and BrianD,

You guys both hit it right on the head. I was aware that I could simply take the two outs from the SPX-90 and plug em into inputs 3 and 4. I was hoping that I would not have to start repatching if possible. BrianD - have you had any luck using the Effects Sends on the Omni to avoid this? I want to do exactly what you describe here without reaching in behind the rack to yank the L and R effect returns of the SPX out of the Onmi Return In's and then replug em into Inputs 3 and 4. In my layout hardware In 3 and 4 are used by my piano.

I want to use the Delta panel to redirect the clean track from Vegas (on say ins 1 and 2 if it is a stereo cut) to SW Ins 3and 4 while opening the effect send on 3 and 4 (onmi front panel) and then re-record it on a new track in Vegas. This panel looks so flexible - I can't believe the only way to do this is by yanking cables...

I look forward to more ideas.

Cheers,

Cuzin B

PS - RednRoll - I bought my SPX-90 brand new off the shelf in 1986 (still have the original bill, carton and wall poster with all the patches!) and then sat and stared at it for 16 years...ensuring not one dust speck ever landed on it. It is a cool (but sometimes noisy)little box with some great sounds (especially the verbs) I like to bring some of those into the mix from time to time. If used carefully and sparely - this thing still kicks the can of most of the software verbs out there....

The main issue is that the Omni box convoludes what is a computer record line and what is just a "mix line" that stays inside the box and never goes down to the computer. Remember that at the core of the Delta you only have 4 in/4 out. The "FX return" lines only mix in the box, they never go down to the computer. If you want to be able to both computer generate and computer record a sound, there's no way to avoid taking up a pair of "real" in and out lines.