Subject:Real Audio

Posted by: hispanicboy

Date:3/28/2002 4:08:52 PM

is there any way to bring a real audio file (filename.rm) into sound forge 5.0? i have a bunch of these on my hard drive and would like to convert them to mp3s. any ideas? if not with soundforge, what with?
thanks

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Ted_H

Date:3/28/2002 4:41:22 PM

Sound Forge cannot open Real Media files. Real Media files are secured and cannot be opened by audio editing applications.

Ted

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: doctorfish

Date:3/28/2002 9:02:40 PM

Yes, he's right, but
if you have Real Jukebox, you can convert them to MP3's.
It isn't too expensive and it's a cool player.
You can get it at www.real.com

I did like SoFo's Siren Jukebox better, but since it has been
discontinued, I may go back to Real Jukebox.

Hope this helps.

doctorfish

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Spirit

Date:3/30/2002 5:16:45 AM

The entire rm range of players - and their audio format - is almost virus like in its insidious, evil behaviours and paranoid copy protection regime. Stay away from them. Delete them. Never touch them again.

:)

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Weka

Date:4/2/2002 1:18:12 PM

I agree that RealAudio is a real pain in the butt but having committed to it for a web site some time ago I have to live with it. You can, however, get into and turn off the anoying features. Takes a bit of lateral thinking but I've done it. You'd think that they are trying to put themselves out of business with the new player!

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:4/2/2002 3:18:50 PM

I registered RealOne with an address something like 340t9jioij34t@ghuowher84.rutwg
I learned the hard way the first time around to never give Real.com your eMail address. I will note however that the new player seems to be much nicer at actually playing files!

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Spirit

Date:4/2/2002 8:58:42 PM

If you need to play video I recommend converting the file to swf format and embedding it in a standard html page. The file is then accessible to almost everyone and will stream straight through most corporate firewalls. best of all NO download is needed and no need for a new pop-up plare window. Brilliant!

Here's the product:
http://www.wildform.com/flix/

A great company with good products and top-notch support. And no, I don't work for them :)

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Spirit

Date:4/2/2002 10:29:49 PM

I thought we were talking video. Don;t know why ! oops

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Weka

Date:4/2/2002 11:55:14 PM

Ok. While on this whole OT of streaming, what are the options? My understanding is that I have either RealAudio or Windows Media Player - or mp3. In this case I am streaming a large number (120) of small (30sec) segments from a large-ish website. I could use mp3 but they take up much more room than .rm files (and hence cost more to store). In all cases SF 5 makes a fabulous job of scrunching them via the batch converter so that's not the problem. It's client usability. RA has become such a dog that I feel rotten telling folk to dl it. Any enlightenment welcome.
Cheers and thanks

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:4/4/2002 7:53:58 PM

I would probably lean toward Windows Media (Audio or Video) for streaming. I'm not exactly a huge fan of MS, but then again at least they're not inserting broadcastware that you can't get rid of.

(I'm referring to RealOne Player. It's a great player in itself, but the inability to disable that damned "evntsvc.exe" is so annoying. Any attempts to remove or disable it are fruitless. The next time RealOne Player is started, "evntsvc.exe" is added back in. Ugh!)

And since Windows Media Player is included with Windows XP (which is sold with every new vendor-made computer now), you might as well take advantage of that fact.

Just a thought,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Spirit

Date:4/4/2002 8:57:05 PM

Wildform Flix is still a viable option here - although primarily intended to convert video to Flash swf files, it can also encode and export separate wav and mp3 files. Since every PC will play wav and usually Mp3, no problem. The other plus is that Flix allows you to set a maximum bitrate for streaming. That way you can determine your target market (whether dialup or cable etc) and encode the audio with the compression depending entirely on your chosen maximum bitrate. You can also set an automatic preload percentage before playback. Here's the link:
http://www.wildform.com/flix/features_flix.php?sid=G98M-9828-3c7d6bacbb4c5

The program costs $120 and does NOT need Flash to operate.

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Weka

Date:4/8/2002 9:50:29 PM

Thanks all for your help. I'll be checking out both methods.
Cheers
Siabadar

Subject:RE: Real Audio

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:5/2/2002 1:07:15 PM

mD, i have a fix for you to get rid of that pesky evntsvc.exe in the RealOne player. The trick is to replace it with something else innocuous and safe. I've created a program, null.exe, which does nothing other than end. I've uploaded it to ... http://www.chienworks.com/software/others/real/ ... right-mouse-button click on it and save it to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB . Rename evntsvc.exe to something else, like evntsvc-exe.bak , then copy null.exe to evntsvc.exe . Now go to Start, Program Files, Accessories, System Tools, System Information, Tools, System Configuration Utility, Startup, (*whew*) and disable TkBellExe, Apply, OK, reboot. RealOne won't be able to initialize the event service program anymore, so it won't run and won't be reenabled in startup.

I've been running this way for three weeks now without a hitch. But make sure you save that evntsvc-exe.bak file just in case. And yes, i do promise that null.exe isn't a trojan or a back door; that's definately not my style. It's perfectly safe.