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Subject:SoundForge speed question
Posted by: pbeshuk
Date:4/2/2002 10:23:47 PM

I have a wave file that is about 420Mb in size. I have a P-III 450 processor and 128MB of memory. I think my bus speed is 66Mhz. I notice that it takes about 4-5 minutes to do any type of processing to the whole file. Would more memory be sufficient to speed this up noticably, or do I need a new processor, mboard and new/more memory? Thanks for any suggestions.

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: VU-1
Date:4/3/2002 10:40:55 PM

What kind of processing are you trying to do? Give us a list of plug-ins or processers in your chain.

JL
OTR

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: pbeshuk
Date:4/7/2002 9:07:11 AM

It seems like anything I do which involves a large portion of the file takes 4-5 minutes. Examples are RMS Normalizing, compression, large cuts or pastes, etc. I assume none of that involves plug-ins? I haven't put any plug-ins in my system; it's just SF 5.0 out of the box.

thanks.

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: pbeshuk
Date:4/16/2002 7:04:09 PM

In case anybody cares, here's the result of my experiment: I increased my RAM from 128Mb to 256Mb (PC100 SDRAM) and it makes absolutely no difference. I tried to RMS Normalize (with the Scan and without creating the Undo). It was a 675Mb file. It took 13.5 minutes to do this. Is this similar to what anyone else is experiencing (especially those of you with more capable machines)?

I'd like to try increasing memory to 800ish MB so I could hold the entire .wav file in memory, but my computer can hold only 384MB, so I guess that's new motherboard/processor territory.

Btw, the increased memory is being recognized by my computer and I can see a big difference in other applications (eg web browsing).

Now I suspect my hard drive is the limiting device. I have a 7200RPM 15Gb drive but it has a 5400 RPM slave hard drive attached to it (someone once told me that would slow down the 7200 to operate at 5400; don't know if it's true).

Any thoughts anyone?

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: CDM
Date:4/16/2002 7:26:14 PM

processor speed, frontside bus speed, and hard drive speed all make a big difference. Ram makes virtually none for this kind of thing.

are you operating directly on the file or using temp files (blue data window or red?)
that will change save speeds considerably.

sf6 is faster for almost all operations, especially undo, redo, cut, paste, copy, save...

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: Soundshepherd
Date:4/17/2002 11:11:00 AM

Hard disc speed. Only. IMHO.

Try working in Direct mode if your source files comes from DAT or CD (so that you have backups). If all you do are simple (as in easy to remember) edits then all an unlikely crash will do is set you back a couple of minutes.

SF has always been retarded when it comes to long files. This will finally change with SF 6.

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: rraud
Date:4/17/2002 11:33:49 AM

I work with a lot of large files and yes it takes a while. Epescailly noise reduction and other plug-ins. What bugs me is when you delete a portion in the begining of a file it has to redraw the entire file, unlike Cool Edit which is quick. Shutting down all unnesesary programs speeds things up some. Make sure you have the SF temp file folder on the same drive as the audio. I hope 6.0 taked care of this some. Not to mention the lack of DAO CD burning.
SF should re-comsider this issue or they may find everyone switching over to a competitor. But I think they are no longer interested the pro-audio business. Look at their programs for kids.

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: beetlefan
Date:4/18/2002 6:22:08 AM

I am extremly impressed by how fast SF 6.0 beta is! I can't wait to buy it. I find myself using it as much as Cool Edit Pro now. All it needs is DAO burning!

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: rraud
Date:4/18/2002 12:00:32 PM

Yeah Beetle, I use cool edit a lot for the deletes and stuff like that. I believe the latest version of cool edit has a DAO, is this correct?
I hope SF sees fit to include DAO burning in 6.0 but I don't think it's going to happen. Did you say you were looking for CDA?

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: beetlefan
Date:4/18/2002 3:23:50 PM

Yes, Cool EDit Pro now does DAO via plugin and can burn from track and index markers inserted into the waveform.

Yes, I am looking for CDA. I was able to download a CDA XP demo from Sweetwarter but how do I unlock it if SF dopes not support it any more?

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: pbeshuk
Date:4/19/2002 9:14:05 PM

Does anyone think if I had maybe 800Mb of memory, I'd notice a difference?

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: dansolo
Date:4/21/2002 1:48:21 PM

i have a p4 1.6 gig rig with 1 gig of DDr ram and to normalize or edit the begining of a 710meg file takes aprox 2 min and 10 sec. this is with undo's turned on. i am also running ata 133 hard drive. it wasnt that much slower withe my older computer and it was half as fast. with the same amount of memory.
hope this gives you some compairisons.

Subject:RE: SoundForge speed question
Reply by: Soundshepherd
Date:4/21/2002 7:25:42 PM

I don't think you would get much of an improvement, no. Get a faster harddrive and get SF 6 when it is released.

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