I edit natively, EOS 60D and 5D mrk III with Vegas Pro 11 and 12. Playing back in real time preview. But I got a very good system to work with.

BruceUSA - your system #2 is EPIC!!! Nice specs ;-)

> Posted by: Cliff Etzel "His comments about editing native files instead of converting for over a year since moving to Adobe's apps has me revisiting shooting video again and wondered if anything has improved with Vegas Pro with editing native footage from the various file formats available these days "

I had to laugh when I read Walter's blog about editing native footage like Adobe invented it or something. I've been editing native footage in Vegas Pro for the past 13 years and he's only finding out how productive this can be now? Perhaps he should take the time to find out why Vegas editors LOVE their tools. ;-) The only time I ever used a digital intermediary was when my Pentium 4 couldn't handle HD, but once I upgraded to a dual core AMD I was editing native again.

I assume you're asking about Canon DSLR footage. While earlier versions of Vegas Pro had trouble with this format, later versions have it playing back smoothly. I don't think you'll have any problems editing native footage in Vegas Pro 12.0 with a fairly modern computer.

~jr

I've had similar experiences in the audio world with slack-jawed Pro-Tools users who see me edit audio in Vegas. Most of them simply refuse to believe i'm actually accomplishing anything in such a small number of extremely easy steps, and using pretty much any native formats mixed together on the same timeline.

Then i'll drag a video file onto the timeline and get one of two reactions:
1) close eyes and turn away, as if they simply don't want to face reality any longer
or:
2) "Wow! Where can i buy this program?"

Ohhhh ... and once in a great while i still get this reaction:
3) Ummmmm, that doesn't look like a Mac. That looks like Windows. But, you can't do that with Windows.

I don't own a Canon 5d Mk11 but have edited miles of footage shot with one.
No problems whatsoever.
Hot knife through butter in Sony Vegas Pro 12..
Drag it onto the timeline, Bob's yer uncle.
Don't even know what t was ....mov maybe.
Don't have to know.
I'm free to create,...with no nerdy nonsense.

But, you can't do that with Windows

how often have i heard that! ;-) especially when simply viewing jpgs in explorer...

i don't think i've ever NOT edited native (though my files are / were dv, hdv, etc.,).

the only time i transcode was / are, a. when my system wasn't physically upto handling 'new' codecs (eg.avchd), b. pita codecs like jvc .mod, etc.,

"3) Ummmmm, that doesn't look like a Mac. That looks like Windows. But, you can't do that with Windows."

Didn't you know that only on a Mac can one be creative ? And using a Mac inherently makes one creative ?

geoff

I've had many conversations with students going into arts and media production fields who believe precisely that. One kid in my church was heartbroken when his dad got him an Acer with Windows 7 for his graduation present instead of the Macbook that the family simply couldn't afford. He was convinced it was useless because it couldn't run music/video or graphics software. So, i set him up with Vegas Studio, ACID Studio, Sound Forge Studio, and a few open souces graphics programs. Next Sunday he was all giddy because his friends were jealous about all the 'artsy' things he could do with is laptop that they couldn't afford software for.

Not meant in any way being part of the thread, Kelso, but from me, that's the best story yet! Thanks for sharing. And well done you Sir Kelso!

G

I've been with Vegas since its birth as a multitrack audio NLE back at version 1. Strictly an amateur, I've used it for nothing more challenging than editing home movies, and even at that level of stress it has had its ups and downs over the years and versions. Despite it all, I'm still plugging away on the current version. I mention this because Vegas' presence or absence in the professional environment doesn't matter at all to me as long as Vegas continues to be an actively developed product.

That being said, and Vegas' features, capabilities and anecdotal triumphs aside, it seems to me that the relative brevity and unfamiliarity of Biscardi's passing treatment of Vegas vis-a-vis Avid, Adobe, Autodesk and Apple speaks volumes about Vegas' lack of presence in the professional environment.

I've also been using Vegas since (audio only) ver.1 for post-production audio. I don't dare mention it to clients though, When clients visit though, I have to switch to SloTools.