Paintbrush stroke effect

Colin Basterfield wrote on 2/24/2013, 1:53 AM
Hi,

I am creating a short video which realises my short story, called Revenge.

I have lots of actual footage of where I pictured what happens happen, but some of it I want to be more abstract, so as not to just show everything that the words conjure.

One of the sentences reads, "The bride in white, stands out against black tuxedos and magnolia dresses."

The black tuxedos are the men at the wedding, and the magnolia dresses are the bridesmaids.

Now rather than film the actual scene with actors and actresses, I want to just have a paint brush sweep go across the screen, first a white one, then a black one, then a magnolia one, perhaps leaving each previous colour on the screen, with the white one in the middle.

My question is, I wondered whether there was an effect that I could use that would give the effect of a colour being swept across the screen, as though a paint brush stroke?

Any ideas anyone?

Many thanks in advance.
Colin

Comments

Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 4:16 AM
Yup, all you need is some kind person here to spend time on creating a VEG that would do it. Explaining, via text is going to be a minefield of misunderstanding and frustration for all.

So, any takers to produce the VEG?

farss wrote on 2/24/2013, 4:56 AM
A good friend of mine pulled this effect off decades ago.
Sheet of glass, big brush and a can of CK green paint. From that you can easily generate realistic looking animated masks.

Bob.
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 2/24/2013, 8:31 AM
Hey Grazie, send him your tutorial of the Sin City effect. Then on the next event you have normal video. Then just use the Linear Wipe transistion between the 2 events.
Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 8:50 AM

(. . here we go . . . )
Former user wrote on 2/24/2013, 8:55 AM
(.. here we go...)

What does that mean?
Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 9:12 AM
jdw - you are asking ALL the questions that would need to be asked to get a better idea what the OP is after. Simply my comment underlines that we are off in writing here what needs to be done : "here we go".

jdw: "What would the underlying background color need to be? If one color is white and another black, that kinda rules out those as background colors. Or would you be wiping over an image of some sort, meaning you need a transparent background for the paint effect? What frame size / format are you needing?

All good questions, and still we could be getting it wrong.

Former user wrote on 2/24/2013, 9:20 AM
I guess it's the non-emotive nature of texted based communication. But, since that sort of thing can lead to misunderstandings, I figured instead of getting into a "I know better than you" discussion I would just delete my post and leave the topic to others to jump in and help out.
Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 9:31 AM
You've asked great questions!
Colin Basterfield wrote on 2/24/2013, 1:51 PM
Hi Grazie,

First up, many thanks for all the input, and I agree with you, Grazie that the questions asked of me are entirely valid. Not sure what OP stands for, but I'll assume it's something nice. :-)

OK, in terms of the underlying colour, I'm not 100% but my current sense is that it's the footage I shot of the sandy inlet near where we live (in Wellington, New Zealnd btw). So there's sea in the lower third of the shot, an azure blue, beach in the middle third, and then in the top third a couple of huts, some vegetation and hills in the background, approximately.

I was thinking of playing around with say NewBlue ST Coloured pencil, or something to transition the tail end of the above footage into more of a line drawing, and then 'simply' sweep the colours in one after the other, white in the middle, black on one side, and magnolia on the other.

N.B. You are right about the magnolia, it is off white, so I can change the text to say peach or something to provide more of a contrast. I used magnolia because I like the way it sounded when spoken, but I'm happy to adapt.

Following the brush sweep, I cut back to an ocean shot, as the narrative is -

"My gaze lingers on the ocean in between, as it sprouts crest and curls lips, before crashing a thousand gallons in the sandy bowl that shudders under its weight."

In terms of the format, the project is 720x576x32 25,000i

As I said, I'm not 100% on how it'll look, but I'd love to get some ideas as to what's possible, especially given I'm a newbie at Vegas Pro, most certainly in terms of effects. Once I have some techniques, I can play around with it and see what works.

Many thanks again for all the input, and hope this post provides some more info that helps.

Cheers
Colin
RRA wrote on 2/24/2013, 1:59 PM
Hi,

I'm not sure, that I understand properly your intent = but if you are looking for idea of animated mask like brush stroke you could use animated brush strokes from Digital Juice Motion Designers Toolkit One.

There is several method to use such file as animated mask. Probably you can render it from Juicer with alpha or use composition :

1st track from top : parent track : mask (animated brush) with mask generator FX or with alpha, compositing mode MASK
2nd track from top : child track : your color movie
3rd track for top : independent track : your color movie with B&W FX.

best regards,
Colin Basterfield wrote on 2/24/2013, 2:11 PM
Hi,

Many thanks for such a prompt response.

re my intent, I know the words of the story (and all my stories, I'm told) create very strong visuals, so I really just want to compliment / emphasize them, the words.

Who knows how my monkey mind works, but in my mind I had a paint brush stroke the colours across some of the frames as I'm saying the words, so

"The bride in white," => stroke white paint diagonally up the middle of the frame

"stands out against black tuxedos." => stroke black paint diagonally up the LHS of the frame

"and magnolia / peach dresses." stroke magnolia / peach paint diagonally up the RHS of the frame.

One of the comments yesterday said I could actually paint it on glass. With that I would have the hand in shot also. I won't know until I try out some of the effects available, then I'll know whether it's a good idea or not...

I'll take a look at digital juice. I assume they have a web site that named accordingly?

Many thanks again
Colin

Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 2:31 PM
Colin, my apologies:

OP = Opening Post

G

farss wrote on 2/24/2013, 2:41 PM
"One of the comments yesterday said I could actually paint it on glass. With that I would have the hand in shot also. I won't know until I try out some of the effects available, then I'll know whether it's a good idea or not..."

No you wouldn't have the hand in shot.
That's why I said you paint chroma key green paint on glass.
You shoot from the other side of the glass. The hand and the brush never gets in front of the green and with a bit of care with the lighting extracting the key is very simple, simple enough so this trick was done using the basic keyers in the old days of analog video processing and in real time.
You then use the key to generate masks.

If you have a graphics tablet I think you could also do this with one of those and you could paint on specific areas of the frame which would look more natural. Most graphics tablets also come with a selection of digital brushes.

You can also use the Secondary Colour Corrector to isolate specific colours in combination with luma values, that would make it easier to paint inisde the lines. With this you can isolate "bride in white" etc and apply the animated brush to only that to reveal it first, then on another track or even project isolate the black tuxedos and apply the brush reveal animated mask to them. Track by track you build the scene.


Another way this can be done and one done regularly that does look OK is to take a single frame and draw or paint it on an animation stand or on glass shot from the other side. Then that is crossfaded into the original frame from the camera and then the live vision is ramped up to speed i.e. comes to life.

Bob.
Former user wrote on 2/24/2013, 2:53 PM
Well, I said I was going to stay out it -- but here I go anyway...

Does something like this work for you?
Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 3:13 PM
. . like I said jdw . . .




Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 3:15 PM
But yes jdw, that's exactly what I was thinking about. I've spent the last hour attempting to - badly - construct a digital "analogue" Brush . . seeesh


G


Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 4:08 PM
Something like this?

farss wrote on 2/24/2013, 5:50 PM
"I've spent the last hour attempting to - badly - construct a digital "analogue" Brush . . seeesh"

That's why I keep saying use a real brush and real paint.
Even with AE at my disposal I still go back to the old school way of shooting plates.


Bob.
Duncan H wrote on 2/24/2013, 5:57 PM
Hi all,

My interpretation of what the O.P described. (Of course, might be well off the mark!). Very easy, still images developed in a graphics program with transparent backgrounds & multiple tracks in Vegas with wipe transitions.

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Regards,

Duncan
Colin Basterfield wrote on 2/24/2013, 6:04 PM
I don't say any of this lightly, but you guys are awesome. I'm very flattered that you've taken the time to really help me out. Also I love the inclusion of Syl's favorite Godfather quote. The Sopranos was such a wonderful show. The Godfather I & II are my wife's favorite movie, we watch at least GF I every Christmas day as a ritual. Without wishing to trigger a tangent, I don't think GF III really stood up so well compared to the first 2.

Thanks again, and also for the entertainment.
Cheers
Colin
Colin Basterfield wrote on 2/24/2013, 6:05 PM
Bob,

CK green?

Col
Grazie wrote on 2/24/2013, 10:20 PM
Colin, was my attempt the kind of thing that you are wanting to have happen? That's what I was wanting to establish initially.

Bob, I'd got what you were saying, my input is soley about the process of transition Colin maybe looking for. The CK (Chroma Key) green or blue Brush work can come later.

Rory Cooper wrote on 2/25/2013, 3:16 AM
If you want something that is quick as Duncan suggests
Create a mat = that is go into a graphics editor solid black image then with your paint brush white make a brush stroke be creative go mad
Then use it as a mat transition with Vegas gradient transition

Use the full gradient to get the most out of the image that is almost solid black = 8 to almost white 250

farss wrote on 2/25/2013, 4:37 AM
As Grazie said below Chroma Key. For this purpose the exact green colour would not be critical.

Someone mentioned Videohive before.
I just dug a bit deeper and they have a whole collection of paint brush strokes already made into mattes for you. Their prices are pretty reasonable at $80 for a volume, about what a gallon of paint and brushes would cost I guess. Link to one of them here.

Only thing here is you'd need to use more than one to cover the whole of the frame plus some of them seem too quick compared to a real painter.

Bob.