Editing with touch screen?

Paul Masters wrote on 8/22/2012, 9:43 AM
Hello:

Saw the post about editing with your voice.

Has anyone tried editing with a touch screen terminal?

I am not sure it wold be helpful with Vegas, but with a program with DVDA or DSA with all the point and click and point and click.... I am wondering if it could save time.

Any one doing that?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Paul Masters

Comments

Former user wrote on 8/22/2012, 9:57 AM
I have not edited with touchscreen but have used other programs that are touch screen. I think for apps that need brief interaction, such as yes no questions or such, touchscreen is fine.

But I think for long term use, such as editing sessions, your arms will get tired and you may not have the resolution in your fingertip to help with the fine frames of video. Here again, I have not done it, this is just a gut reaction.

Dave T2
Tim20 wrote on 8/22/2012, 3:06 PM
I am using a Tascam 1884 in Mackie Control emulation. The shuttle/scrub wheel alone is worth its weight in gold to move around quicly and get the right frame. Plus many keys are user definable. Also nice to be able to mix audio on the fly.
farss wrote on 8/22/2012, 3:33 PM
"Here again, I have not done it, this is just a gut reaction."

I think your gut reaction is correct. Touch screens have their place and you've pretty much nailed what they're good for. For anything else they're at best a kludge, something we'd use when we're forced to but not by choice. It's not just the arm getting tired problem, it gets back to how humans do I/O. Our fingers are input and output devices. Touch screens deny us the input part, we loose the tactile feedback. We also lose the sense of scale and significance of the controls.

In my previous life I worked in the process control business. There's good reasons why control rooms still have physical buttons and knobs. No different to the reaons colour grading suites have complex control surfaces or why there's a difference between playing a good grand and an electric piano or as I realised yesterday, a pipe organ.

Bob.
Dan Sherman wrote on 8/22/2012, 4:03 PM
In the edit suite of the future, a floor to ceiling touch screen monitor.
We edit, hopping to and fro, gesticulating with our arms, dancing on a keyboard ala Tom Hanks in the film "Big" (kicking the space bar, flying from "S" to "P", with the grace of a rhino).
A new generation of fit and trim editors emerges as editing becomes as physical as laying bricks, carpentry or football.
Touch screen editing, on a big scale, aerobic activity and longer life!
Bring it on, say my cardiologist, endocrinologist, urologist,... bring it on.
But, alas, my wife disagrees.
It's the status quo for her,... as sadly I am under insured.

john_dennis wrote on 8/22/2012, 5:16 PM
"There's good reasons why control rooms still have physical buttons and knobs."

Since I still have an actual IBM keyboard that has a very long action, is beige, and goes click loud enough to be heard two rooms down the hallway, I'll probably be late to the touchscreen party.

I've also noticed that even though I can be very precise with small muscles, I'm not much of a dancer. I was once encouraged to become a watchmaker. Looking back, I'm glad I didn't.
farss wrote on 8/22/2012, 6:30 PM
"Since I still have an actual IBM keyboard that has a very long action, is beige, and goes click loud enough to be heard two rooms down the hallway, "

Mine's Black, that's my one concession to modernity :)

Bob.
Laurence wrote on 8/22/2012, 7:36 PM
Well I have a touch screen computer. Touch screens have the same effect on V11 as do Wacom tablets. I have yet to do a successful v11 editing session.
Chienworks wrote on 8/22/2012, 7:54 PM
I couldn't stand the double-action click of the old IBM keyboards. I thought they were a nightmare to type on, and not the slightest bit like a typewriter in any fashion.

My favorites were the early CompuAdd keyboards that had a good solid single 'thuk' sound. You knew the key had been pressed, but it didn't fight back at you like the IBMs did.

Microsoft's early keyboards felt like i was typing on a wet sponge. Ewww.
farss wrote on 8/22/2012, 8:02 PM
Actually my current keyboard might be a bit different as it's a Unicomp buckling spring keyboard. Certainly not like a mechanical typewriter but way better than the mushy feel of most of the others. It is uber noisy which I love :)

I don't use this keyboard for editing, for that I have a Logickeyboard which whilst not the best to type on it does have the legends for Vegas. Much nicer than my old Worldtech Vegas keyboard. I saw the latest Logickeyboard yesterday, very nice design with a built in USB hub.

Bob.

TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/22/2012, 10:12 PM
I thought a touchscreen monitor would be handy for using for the audio mixer. If it could be multitouch you could use the mouse for the editing and do real time volume envelopes. Would be useful for anything where a mouse isn't useful, like doing the envelopes, etc.
fausseplanete wrote on 8/24/2012, 7:53 AM
There should be haptic feedback so that as you pull a boring event to a longer duration, more strength is required.
Laurence wrote on 8/24/2012, 10:45 AM
I have an annoying case of carpel tunnel. I'm using a trackball left handed and the touch screen occasionally. Anything to relieve my right hand which now seems to have some permanent numbness. With Windows 8, I expect the touch screen response to be better and more widely used. Vegas needs to fix problems with this and the Wacom tablets.
John_Cline wrote on 8/24/2012, 5:07 PM
"Cyberlink, best known for its ubiquitous PowerDVD software, is among those preparing for Win8's tablet assault with some touch-optimized video editing software. Called PowerDirector, it'll be available on Windows 8 launch day and will retail for around 10 to 15 bucks as a standalone app in the Windows Store.

PowerDirector gives Windows filmmakers the ability to import multiple types of video (including mpeg 2, h.264, and mkv files) and trim those clips using taps, pinches and swipes. It also outputs finished work in up to 1080p resolution."

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/23/cyberlink-powerdirector-windows-8-tablet-video-editing-app/
rs170a wrote on 8/29/2012, 10:44 AM
Leap Motion looks like it has some possibilities.
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