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[r]Evolution wrote on 3/14/2012, 8:50 PM
Cool!
filmy wrote on 3/14/2012, 9:35 PM
Seems cool, but one has to wonder what a client would think if you showed up with this: CUrrent Prototype

I know, I know - it is called a prototype for a reason. I am not used to seeing a company asking for $2,500.00 to buy, and use, something before it is finalized. Oh wait - this is a Sony Vegas forum. :)
Serena wrote on 3/14/2012, 11:38 PM
Well that was how RED did it, and that worked out OK. One could also ask what would a client think if you turn up to a video shoot with a still camera (Canon 5D)? But I guess the client would hire you for your known work rather than for the colour of your shoes. However you might ask why build something that looks like an antique low cost amateur film camera (including a winding handle) and that I can't answer.
Laurence wrote on 3/15/2012, 1:50 AM
To my eyes the sample footage looks kind of dark and un-vivid. That is exactly the look I am trying really hard to get away from.
farss wrote on 3/15/2012, 2:05 AM
"To my eyes the sample footage looks kind of dark and un-vivid"

That's ungraded.
If you haven't seen it before, take a look at S-Log from the F3 before and after grading.

Bob.
Laurence wrote on 3/15/2012, 2:26 AM
What a great grading demo!
Serena wrote on 3/15/2012, 3:19 AM
I haven't seen that and the images are great. It's not only S-log that must be graded in this way, but all extended gamma curves. Surprises me when I hear criticism of the EX1/3 cinegamma 4 curves being "too flat" --- yep, have to be graded. Then you get a great result.
John_Cline wrote on 3/15/2012, 4:17 AM
Apparently there are a lot of people that think the Digital Bolex is a good idea, the Kickstarter project fund far exceed their initial $100,000 funding goal, they raised an impressive $245,726 on its very first day and there's still 28 days left...
Rory Cooper wrote on 3/15/2012, 4:40 AM
Some more on S-log with CD Gemini.


filmy wrote on 3/15/2012, 9:07 AM
@ Serena

I was being a little ironic in my post but to reply:

Clients now are far more prone to accept showing up to a shoot with a "Still" camera as most all of them now have video ability. Showing up with a 5D would be fine, especially if it were tricked out like this:

Ready for a shoot,

Showing up with a PowerShot D10 would most likely raise a few eyebrows however.

As for being hired for known work - in the old days this would be mostly true for serious projects but now most people who do this for a living would agree that their biggest "threats" are their clients teenage relatives who have a point and shoot or handicam and can do it for nothing. More than once I have quoted a price based on "known work" (Because the potential client contacted me because of that in the first place) only to be told "That is too much" and a variation of "My sisters son can do this for 30 bucks." What gear is being used is not being considered.

Overall I have always maintained, and said over and over, that people should get what they need. If people need a digital Bolex than by all means - get one. This is the entire concept with being an editor - you do not need to be level billion Avid certified to be a good editor, but people have gotten jobs simply because of their "shoes" (i.e - Avid certified) even if they couldn't edit their way out of a paper bag.

As far as the Bolex - my first thought was about a DP friend of mine and how he would be one of the first people in line to get one simply because of the Bolex name. He still has a real Bolex and holds a dream to shoot a low budget feature with it - all hand held and hand wound. A digital Bolex might be the next step for him. Do I think this has potential? Sure, mostly due to the RAW mode of shooting. But I also think the GY-HMQ10 and the EOS 5D Mark III are pretty nifty as well.

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(EDIT: I realized for those with java and preferences set to show inline images and video this post was really screwy.)
GlennChan wrote on 3/16/2012, 12:53 PM
I don't know if this is a great idea. Just ask Jeff Kreines of Kinetta, who was proposing a very similar concept several years ago. (He didn't go through with the camera... he made archival scanners instead.)

Or ask the Andromeda people who modded the DVX-100 to capture uncompressed RAW. They did sell cameras but the business wasn't wildly successful and now they do other things.

It takes a lot of money to put out a good product that enjoys economies of scale. I don't think that their product will fare well against Red, SI-2K, the DSLRs, etc.
Serena wrote on 3/18/2012, 9:18 PM
Phil Bloom has recorded an http://philipbloom.net/2012/03/13/digitalbolex/audio interview[/link] with the project leaders and has invested in the project. It does seem very attractive. People are saying "what about the software?", but I understand it already exists in common usage. A camera that just records images and leaves their manipulation to post is obviously a great simplification and I think desirable. Just as I always shoot RAW in stills for the flexibility it gives me in processing. Wish they were going to provide a turret for prime lenses.
[r]Evolution wrote on 3/19/2012, 6:09 PM
Showing up with a 5D would be fine, especially if it were tricked out like this:
Sad, but true. Doesn't matter if the idiot behind the camera knows what he's doing or not.

"Perception" is BIG with clients.
farss wrote on 2/13/2013, 1:10 AM
It just gets better.
They're now offering a 3 lens turrent and very cheap high quality lenses thanks to a very clever concept regarding focussing. Read more here.

Bob.