5.1 LKFS Metering

seanmccoy wrote on 11/29/2011, 7:58 PM
Anybody successfully using one of the LKFS meters in Vegas (10) for a surround project? I'm finally being forced to adhere to LKFS and True Peak specs for some projects, and have been trying both the Nugen and VMeters demos. Both work fine in a new project or a stereo project, but Vegas crashes if I try to add either of them to the master output. Thanks for any ideas on the problem.

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musicvid10 wrote on 11/29/2011, 9:28 PM
Vegas does not support 5.1 VST plugins on the Surround Master. I spent a couple of months last year talking back and forth with Jon Nugen before Sony disclosed this heretofore unknown limitation. There is no indication that it has been fixed in Vegas Pro 11 that I know of, but it's worth a try from someone who owns that version.Subject: RE: Effects on the Master Output in Surround on V10
VST Plugin Support on the Surround Master - A Poll
Vegas 10 audio plugin tester needed
Can someone with 10.0b test this?
Effects on the Master Output in Surround on V10
End to the Loudness Wars? -- Recommended Reading

In the meantime VisLM from Nugen now has a standalone function. Also worth noting is that the CALM Act goes into effect in the US in twelve days. We Vegas users own the licensed Dolby Digital Surround encoder, but we can't use it for anything that will be broadcast because we can't norm the Vegas output to CALM/ATSC_A85.
Pity.

seanmccoy wrote on 11/29/2011, 10:01 PM
Oh, great. All indicators are that I'm going to end up in Pro Tools land.

Thanks for the info, though.
ChristoC wrote on 11/29/2011, 10:13 PM
Hmmmmm, it seems SCS have not fixed multichannel VST support in any incarnation of VegasPro10; & I can't see any indication VegasPro11 is any different, but not tried that version here yet....

ZPlane's PPMulatorXL also has standalone version (as well as VST/RTAS/AU plugin) http://products.zplane.de/index.php?page=ppmulatorxl
It is also capable of batch reading mono/stereo/multichannel .wav/aif/aiff files and logging peaks.
seanmccoy wrote on 11/29/2011, 11:36 PM
I'm confused as to how to use the standalone version. I would think I should be able to open it with VP and it would monitor the sound card's output in realtime, but I can't get the two programs (Nugen and VP) to co-exist regardless of which driver type I select. I'm obviously missing something.

Sheesh, you'd think if Sony can't make their master output VST compatible they'd at least offer a high-end metering plugin of their own. This makes Vegas pretty useless for anybody mixing for TV.
musicvid10 wrote on 11/29/2011, 11:43 PM
I have to confess I haven't downloaded the Nugen meters since they announced the standalone. Figured I'd save my trial run until I really need it.

"This makes Vegas pretty useless for anybody mixing for TV."
That, along with BWF export.
ChristoC wrote on 11/30/2011, 12:01 AM
> I'm confused as to how to use the standalone version.

That can be used real-time if your soundcard allows - e.g. the hub of my system is 3 soundcards with a total of 256 chan ASIO streaming I/O + 192 chan physical I/O, so the output of Vegas, or any other application, can be routed to the standalone (or VST for that matter....), applications can be routed to eachother, as well as a myriad of physical I/O.
seanmccoy wrote on 11/30/2011, 12:19 AM
That's one impressive number of channels! I have a lonely RME HDSP card and Digiface for my PC—but I suppose I could install the Nugen on my Mac and mult the output there for metering. Worth a try...