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Rainer wrote on 2/27/2011, 1:47 PM

There's a new version of FCP coming out, and in another thread, http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=752446&Replies=0, Markholmes has initiated a rumour that it will be Vegas-like. I wouldn't be surprised. Like all Apple products, expect to pay through the nose.

MarkHolmes wrote on 2/27/2011, 3:30 PM

I've been using Vegas on my Mac Pro on a Boot Camp partition for 2+ years with no issues. In fact, it's probably my most stable PC to date.

In regards to my other post, I certainly have no knowledge that the new FCP does resemble Vegas - mostly wishful thinking, as I hate Final Cut every time I use it. Vegas on the Mac is my most fervent wish - a new Final Cut with the best of Vegas incorporated into it would be the next best thing.

mtntvguy wrote on 2/27/2011, 3:52 PM

I use Vegas 8 & 9 32 bit under WIndows XP on my 24" iMac, and Vegas 10 64-bit in Windows 7 on my 17" MacBook Pro with the i7 processor. Both are very stable.

Like Mark, I have Final Cut Studio on the Mac OS side and I hate using it. I only keep it because Apple snobs who probably have never tried anything else have done a nice job of convincing people FCP is better than the rest, so some clients insist I use it. Yuck.

I do kind of like Motion, however. And it's really cool to be able to create GFX in Motion, then just move them over to a Sony Vegas timeline.

Windows 7 sucks, by the way. Just saying...

Mindmatter wrote on 2/27/2011, 4:05 PM

same thing here...mac pro , bootcamp3.2, windows7 x64 and vegas 10...runs smoothly and FC is simply a nightmare I never even use anymore because it messes with my adreneline level...
why do you think win 7 sucks?? XP was kinda nice when stable, but I wouldn´t wanna go back anymore.

John_Cline wrote on 2/27/2011, 4:11 PM

"Windows 7 sucks, by the way. Just saying..."

I, too, am curious why you would make a statement like that. I'm running Win7-64 on eight of the thirteen computers I have here and it has been 100% rock solid on all of them. In my opinion, it is the best OS Microsoft has ever released. I have no complaints whatsoever.

Geoff_Wood wrote on 2/27/2011, 6:07 PM

It does not "make you creative" like Apple products do ;-)

geoff

mtntvguy wrote on 2/27/2011, 6:34 PM

I said what I said about Windows 7 because I've had a great deal of difficulty adjusting to it's completely different interface and preference settings. This gets particularly confusing, for me, because I use XP on one machine, and Windows 7 on the other. I just like "the old way" better.

Of course, I also had some trouble adjusting to the Mac OS.

John_Cline wrote on 2/27/2011, 7:17 PM

I understand, it's not that Windows 7 sucks, you just suck at operating it.

mtntvguy wrote on 2/27/2011, 9:00 PM

"I understand, it's not that Windows 7 sucks, you just suck at operating it"

In a word, yes.

Now do you feel like a he-man?

John_Cline wrote on 2/27/2011, 9:24 PM

You make an inflammatory statement like "Windows 7 sucks" with nothing to back it up then you should fully expect someone to call you on it.

HyperMedia wrote on 2/27/2011, 10:00 PM

How about the speed and rendering factor with HD and AVC format?

No, it does not make Vegas a bad option because you only loose AVC acceleration at the present time, but it makes the Mac a bad options because NOBODY supports ATI. NVIDIA CUDA is the clear winner in GPU acceleration among NLE vendors. So if you plan on using After Effects or any other GPU accelerated application, you want an NVIDIA graphics card with CUDA.

by John Rofrano

ritsmer wrote on 2/28/2011, 4:08 AM

Have a Mac Pro 2008 edition with 2 x Xeon quad-cores.

First it was running XP 32 bit /Bootcamp and Vegas 8 and 9.

Since last spring it is Windows 7 64 bit (which btw. runs on a Mac Pro directly - without Bootcamp) and Vegas 10.0 now c 64 bit and which handles AVCHD high profile 25Mbps perfectly.

I edit several hours a day without any problems *) on this Mac Pro.
Bought it first place because it then was the absolutely cheepest way to get a 2 x Xeon quad machine.
For the far future I'm probably planning for a 2 x Sandy Bridge Six-core with Nvidia CUDA enabled GPU's.

*) execpt for self imposed problems like beeing fumbling enough for deleting my storage for finished videos some 2 months ago. As my 1 internal backup and 2 external NAS backups always sync with this main storage both the originals and all 3 copies were gone next morning. Tell you: quite some experience. Took an hour before I realizes that everything was deleted.
However no further problems than a trip to the bank where extra copies on external HDDs lie and wait for such totally inconcieveable events :-))))

mtntvguy wrote on 2/28/2011, 12:59 PM

"You make an inflammatory statement like "Windows 7 sucks" with nothing to back it up then you should fully expect someone to call you on it."

The biggest difference between what I said and what you said, of course, is that I did not make inflammatory remarks directed toward you, personally.

But since you've taken it upon yourself to open that can of worms, you pasty-looking Wolf Blitzer look-alike, I'll add that with XP I could go back to any date I wanted to do a system restore. WIndows 7 will only let me go back as far as the last change on the computer... something that has proven quite annoying in recent days. In addition, the interface is quite amateurish in appearance compared to XP, and a lot more amateurish looking than Mac OS. And Win 7 is a HUGE memory hog.

You know, Albuquerque isn't that far of a drive from here. Maybe I'll make a trip down that way to see some old friends.

nedski wrote on 2/28/2011, 1:17 PM

Reply by: mtntvguy
Date: 2/27/2011 6:52:25 PM

Windows 7 sucks, by the way. Just saying...

- - - - - - - - -

I don't like what MS did with the Start Menu and Explorer. They didn't just "dumb it down" they "stupided it up." ;-)

I'm using a freeware app called Classic Shell for Windows 7. Try it.
http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

From their web page:
What is Classic Shell?
Classic Shell is a collection of features that were available in older versions of Windows but are removed from Vista and Windows 7. It has a classic start menu for Windows 7, it adds a toolbar for Windows Explorer and supports a variety of smaller features.

mtntvguy wrote on 2/28/2011, 1:26 PM

Thanks, Ned. I appreciate the heads-up.

Hogwild wrote on 2/28/2011, 1:33 PM

@GARoss, One should be able to install Parallels on the Mac along with windows 7, and run any windows based program without rebooting. I just ordered windows 7 and am planning on installing everything on my 27" iMac this coming weekend to give it a test drive.

fausseplanete wrote on 2/28/2011, 1:55 PM

Just to see what happened, I rendered some HD on a MacBook Pro, 2-core, via Parallels. Normally I'd use Boot Camp instead of course. Surprisingly, the render speed was 2/3 that of Boot Camp. It was actually usable... The main limiting factor was RAM (must get more).

fausseplanete wrote on 2/28/2011, 2:09 PM

I just don't like Boot Camp 3.1's failure to work the ports and fans properly. Unless propped up to give air gap underneath, it often overheats and freezes (sic). In Boot Camp, neither the FW800 nor the ExpressCard ports work properly, while via its USB2 a GRAID is no faster than a single-drive. Being mid-project, I haven't dared try BootCamp 3.2 yet, but in any case I haven't read anything about it addressing these issues.

John_Cline wrote on 2/28/2011, 2:22 PM

" WIndows 7 will only let me go back as far as the last change on the computer... something that has proven quite annoying in recent days."

I just got into System Restore (Control Panel > System > System Protection > System Restore > Choose a different restore point) and I have eight different system restore points available going back to last December. Perhaps you could manually set a system restore point periodically.

Hogwild wrote on 2/28/2011, 3:50 PM

I have no working knowledge of using bootcamp or parallels and just bought my first mac last year, so this will be an adventure for me. I really like my iMac and my old pc is slowing down. I really prefer Vegas' interface better than my Final Cut Express, so I hope this goes well....

mtntvguy wrote on 2/28/2011, 5:43 PM

John Cline wrote: "I just got into System Restore (Control Panel > System > System Protection > System Restore > Choose a different restore point) and I have eight different system restore points available going back to last December. Perhaps you could manually set a system restore point periodically."

I've done the same thing on my version of Win 7 Pro, and it does in fact go back eight items. The trouble is, the eight items are only four days old and I need to go back ten days.

Former user wrote on 2/28/2011, 7:05 PM

You can schedule system restores like any other windows function (defrag, backup etc).

So if you want a restore for everyday, you can schedule it.

Dave T2

mtntvguy wrote on 2/28/2011, 7:55 PM

Yes. I get it. I do.

But that doesn't help me get back to 10 days ago because I did not set that day for backup.

Re: Using Vegas with Parallels or VMWare... if you plan to use firewire you won't be able to with them. I hardly ever use Firewire anymore, but if I needed it I'd want it to work. I've also found out running under Bootcamp is faster and more stable.

John_Cline wrote on 2/28/2011, 8:22 PM

If there is no system restore for 10 days ago then nothing significant happened that day that would have caused Windows to create a restore point. Apparently nothing happened until 4 days ago so the oldest system restore point from 4 days ago should get you back to essentially the same point as you were 10 days ago. Why is it you need to restore? If there are 8 restores in 4 days, then you have been installing a lot of software or drivers.