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gpsmikey wrote on 2/3/2011, 12:54 PM
Ya beat me too it ! I just got the email from Sony a few minutes ago and was going to post the info here. Good deal for anyone wanting to step up to Vegas Pro.

mikey
Byron K wrote on 2/4/2011, 12:02 AM
Great deal! I paid almost $400 2 years ago!
BillM wrote on 2/4/2011, 5:59 AM
I'm seriously considering it. I believe Pro allows for greater than 4X video speed up. Can't seem to find that in the product comparison table. Or did I overlook it?

Bill
Byron K wrote on 2/4/2011, 10:46 PM
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/compare

One of the many advantages besides unlimited video tracks is 64bit in the Pro version. If you have a 64 bit system, it can access RAM above and beyond 3 gig limit in the 32 bit versions. I have an i7 processor and renders will utilize all processors and hyper threading processes resulting in much faster renders.
Milos Janata wrote on 2/5/2011, 4:18 AM
I downloaded trial and i can't speed video 4x times.. how u do it? I supposed to stretch clip using ctrl + mouse drag the edge of clip..
jetdv wrote on 2/5/2011, 4:56 AM
Milos, that's exactly how you do it. Hold down the CTRL key and then resize the event smaller. This will speed it up - up to 4 times - depending on how much smaller you make the event.

Alternately, you can right-click the event, choose Properties, and change the "playback rate". Change it to "4" for 4x. However, that won't resize the event to match the speed change. You would then have to manually resize the event to match the new speed.
BillM wrote on 2/5/2011, 5:26 AM
I'd like to take advantage of this, especially if Pro has better than 4X speed up capability. Still can't find a definitive answer. Anyone?

Thanks.
Milos Janata wrote on 2/5/2011, 8:15 AM
@jetdv Sorry I misstyped. I mean more that 4x speed up.
Yeah i can go 4x but not more. Pretty annoying for me.

For example > to speed up 64x times I need to render 3x times... which decreases quality and eats my time. Almost impossible to make a good looking timelapse from video file.
BillM wrote on 2/5/2011, 8:46 AM
That's what I do in VMS also. So it appears that Pro has the same 4X maximum.

So maybe the 64 bit would make it worth the upgrade for me. But 32 bit VMS 10 is pretty quick with the i7 2600 processor.

Bill
Tim L wrote on 2/5/2011, 10:11 AM
Vegas Pro has the Velocity Envelope for controlling playback speed of an event, in addition to the 4x speedup. You can apply both to get a max speedup of 700% (I think - or maybe its 1200%?).

The Velocity Envelope is similar in appearance to applying a volume envelope to an audio event: it overlays a line on your event (representing normal 1x playback speed), and you can add nodes and drag points up or down to play back faster or slower. This lets you "ramp" the playback up or down, rather than simply having a constant playback for the whole event. 100% means play back at normal speed. Any point can go to 300% (play back 3x as fast), down to 0% (freeze frame), or even down to -100% (play in reverse).

To be honest, I'm not sure if the combination of 4X (squeeze) and 3x (velocity envelope) results in a playback of 7x or of 12x.

Another thing Vegas Pro lets you do is nest an entire Vegas project into the timeline of another project. The nested project is treated just like any other event or film clip. You could make a .veg project file that contains just a single clip on the timeline scrunched up to 4x speed. Then you could open another project and put that first .veg file on the timeline. As with any other event, you could scrunch this one to 4x speed as well, for a playback of 16x the original.

You can download the Vegas Pro trial an experiment.
musicvid10 wrote on 2/5/2011, 10:40 AM
Using Playback Rate and Velocity Envelope in combination will indeed give you 12x speed factor. Vegas Movie Studio does not have envelope tools.

As mentioned, there is nothing preventing you from installing the trial version of Vegas Pro and seeing for yourself if it gives you the features you need.
TOG62 wrote on 2/5/2011, 12:06 PM
Vegas Movie Studio does not have envelope tools.

Not entirely true; there are volume and pan for sound and composite level and fade to colour for video.
Byron K wrote on 2/6/2011, 12:57 AM
Posted by: Milos Janata Date:2/5/2011 6:15:27 AM
Almost impossible to make a good looking timelapse from video file.
One trick that may help maintaining quality timelapse is to render the video at a higher bit rate than your final in the best video format that your PC can handle. I've recompressed this approx 40 minute video about 6-7 times down to about 3 minutes to demonstrate the focus drift issue with my Sanyo Xacti. I believe this was re-rendered in .mxf format then final render to mp4.

mantic59 wrote on 2/7/2011, 11:48 AM
Just pulled the trigger on the upgrade. I know I only need a fraction of Pro's power/features, but at that price it was too hard to pass up. Plus I know I'll get better support and more stable software (not to mention 64 bit functionality). Bye Movie Studio forum, thanks for all the fish. Pro forum here I come, hide the wives and daughters....
Milos Janata wrote on 2/12/2011, 3:44 AM
I am considering it too. BUT Vegas does not have full acceleration as CS5 has. That is why I don't want to pay for it yet. I can save on less powerful hardware. I also found that they charge another 250$ for Vegas proX to Vegas proY. So for version 11 it will be another investment and CS5 becomes cheaper....
Besides trial 10c version crashes while I use pro titler.
Chienworks wrote on 2/12/2011, 5:11 AM
Better yet is to do the intermediate renders in a format that results in no loss, like uncompressed. Then you can do as many re-renders as you wish, thousands, if necessary.
gpsmikey wrote on 2/12/2011, 8:27 AM
"I also found that they charge another 250$ for Vegas proX to Vegas proY."

Not completely true - when the new version comes out, they typically send email upgrade notices out to folks and often the upgrade is more like $139 for a month or two. After that, you are correct in the $250, but like I say, when the new version first comes out, there is often a very significant discount.

mikey
Paulie wrote on 2/17/2011, 11:46 AM
I'm only trialling VMS a the moment. Is there anything to stop me buying VMS Studio 9 and upgrading immediately to Vegas Pro 10 ?