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I own Mercalli V2. I've compared it to Vegas Pro 10's version. I get jitter articfacts with Mercalli but not with the native Vegas version. At this point, I'll avoid using Mercalli.

I get jitter articfacts with Mercalli but not with the native Vegas version.

I'm no expert, but this probably depends on your settings.

Reading through the documentation for Mercalli V2, every video is different and "cookie cutter" presets won't give you optimal results. The SAL (stand-alone) version that comes with Mercalli V2 has excellent instrumentation, graphs, and charts that help you find the best adjustment settings for your video. For the actual rendering, I don't want to fool with intermediates, so I just take the settings that I settled on in the SAL and transfer them to the V2 version of the full plugin in Vegas (not the Vegas 10 plugin)

I've use Mercalli V1 & I found it gives a LOT more options vs the Vegas 10 plugin. The plugin is nice, but I need to reinstall M-V1 so I can have all my options back. I miss them. :)

I tried the version within Vegas 10 Pro, and the Mercalli V2 Pro plugin, using the same settings on the same clip. The Mercalli V2 was clearly better hands down.

"I've use Mercalli V1 & I found it gives a LOT more options vs the Vegas 10 plugin. The plugin is nice, but I need to reinstall M-V1 so I can have all my options back. I miss them. :)"

But I don't think Version 1 will work in 64 bit Vegas --- or have I been misled?

Richard

I don't know, I use 32-bit Vegas (XP 32)

Richard let me get this right:

A] A 32bit s/w can run in a 64bit enviro.

B] A 32bit Plugin can run in 32bit Vegas.

C] A 32bit plugin WONT run in 64bit Vegas you/we need 64bit Plugs for that, hence the hue and cry about wanting a certain "Red House Over Yonder" needing a Bullet.

However!!!

D] IF a s/w house makes standalones, and ProDad now does make a standalones 32 and 64 Mercallis then exo Vegas you can run either 32 or 64 - if you have 64bit everything else.

so . . .

E] When you bought 32bit Merc DID Prodad also do a standalone? Only you can say.

I bet I've missed something out?

Grazie

Merry Christmas, Grazie. Between sips of the festive wine, I'll try to elaborate--- I hope.

Vegas 10 comes in two versions, 32 bit and 64 bit.

They can both be loaded onto and used in Windows 7 64 bit but only Vegas 32 bit will work in a 32 bit version of Windows 7.

Some Plug Ins will only work in the 32 bit Vegas (e.g. Mike Crash's amongst others). Some will work in both versions (e.g. Mercalli and Frederic Bauman's White Balance Plug In as well as NewBlue - how these are installed to the two versions seems to differ somewhat but the Wizard's or whatever else you are offered as guidance should make this clear). I guess also that some Plug Ins might only work in 64 bit but am not too sure about this.

My newly acquired Mercalli works in both Vegas versions and I also have the Stand Alone version available separately as part of the package.

Now, have I missed something or is this too much like one of those jokes we get in our Christmas Crackers? As far as I'm concerned it seems like its timeto sip jointly at the Christmas liquids!

Best Wishes,,

Richard

So what is 32bit version of win7?

Grazie

Ummm! It's a 32 bit version as distinct from a 64 bit version of Windows 7!

Windows 7 will probably be pre-installed in a new PC but this wiill be either 32 bit or 64 bit and you would need to make sure which you are getting when you are buying the PC. If you buy one of the more expensive versions of Windows 7 to install yourself as your OS you'll be given the option of running it as either 32 bit or 64 bit and I believe you will be able to switch between one and the other as you wish.

An example of the sort of thing to consider: Flash will work in 32 bit Internet Explorer but not yet in 64 bit although Adobe are working on this. .

Richard

I have done side by side tests with Mercalli 2 vs.the Vegas 10 stabilizer. Mercalli 2 definitely was better, less cropping and less artifacts when settings were similar.

MT

32-bit plugins don't work in 64 bit Vegas. Period. The full Mercalli V2 installs 3 things: 1) a 32 bit standalone app; 2) a 32 bit plugin, and 3) a 64 bit plugin.

"The full Mercalli V2 installs 3 things: 1) a 32 bit standalone app; 2) a 32 bit plugin, and 3) a 64 bit plugin"

To be strictly correct, the product contains those three things. You actually have to download three separate downloaders, download the separate components and then install the components as required.

Incidentally and at first sight without having done any testing, the Stand Alone Version seems to offer even more options that the excellent Plug In.

If I'm right and you need to take advantage of this, I assume you will have to render the event you want stabilised out from Vegas, post this into Mercalli Stand Alone, do what's necessary, render out again and import the finished item back into Veghas. Is this correct and, if so, what render codecs would you choose/recommend (for SD as well as for HD)?

Richard

Did you use the latest Mercalli (2.0.76) ?

There are any fixes.
http://www.prodad.de/gb/history-mercalli-20.html

Richard, I didn't know/realise that Win7 came in both flavours, 32 and 64!! I'd read that Win7 was the new VISTA and that, VISTA, was purely 64bit - idiot. And that was where I had confused myself.

I really shouldn't be let loose on this stuff.

Grazie

If you buy the retail pack of Win7 in any version above Home Basic you get both 32bit and 64bit versions in the box. It's then fairly easy to setup a dual boot system.

I just finished dual booting this office PC so I can run both versions, very easy to do.

Bob.

Grazie, I'm getting to an age when my family keep telling me that I'm confused! They can't be right, can they?

The trouble with all of this is that there are so many versions of this and that with so many numbers floating around and, worse, words meaning more than one thing depending on context (e.g. bit) - or is this another example of me being confused?

Richard

So, was VISTA soley 64bit?

Grazie

Sorry, can't help. There were so many poor treports about Vista that I never installed it..

Richard

Grazzie, I believe Vista was either 32 or 64, when you bought the OS you would have to choose one or the other - you didn't get to have both like you do with 7 with a single purchase. Can't say for sure because like many I skipped Vista too and went from XP to 7.