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farss wrote on 11/9/2010, 3:46 PM
This is not simple. Deconstruct what happens over time.

Heat causes the base to warp warping the image from the centre.
Heat then causes radical color shifts in the image, again from the centre out.
Heat causes emulsion to burn and bubble.
Eventually base burns through, image peels away.

On the other hand if it wsa old nitrate stock, it's just pooof and it's gone. Add sound of projectionist screaming as the whole reel explodes for added realism.

Bob.
RRA wrote on 11/9/2010, 4:40 PM
:-)

I can see, that only one way is to compose some movies, which can ilustrate stages, you have described. But to be honest, It would be nice FX plugin, maybe not super-realistic but very dramatic (including screaming).

Best regards,
kkolbo wrote on 11/9/2010, 9:32 PM
@bob

You are a gloriously sick SOB and we love you.
JJKizak wrote on 11/10/2010, 4:51 AM
Get a copy of "Two Lane Blacktop"
JJK
TheHappyFriar wrote on 11/10/2010, 6:32 AM
Do you want something like the bonanza intro?
farss wrote on 11/10/2010, 12:28 PM
Some of those in combination would give you the correct outcome. The problem is how to get the affects applied to frame of video.

I searched pretty hard for an AE tutorial on how to do this and came up empty handed. Heaps of projects and tutorial on how to do 'film damage' but that's totally different.
I found several on how to do the Bonanza burning map thing with varying degrees of realism but that too is nothing like what's being asked for. At the end of the day one might have to do it the old school way. Print a frame to film and jam it in the gate of a projector and shoot the outcome.

Bob.
Hogwild wrote on 11/10/2010, 6:54 PM
could you use something like the "Burnt Film" effect in Boris FX as a starting point and go from there? Maybe have your video slowing down to finally stop at a single frame, adding shake or jitter to this point, then using a frame grab/still, work with the Burnt Film effect to get the desired outcome?

http://www.borisfx.com/tutorials/transition.php

http://www.creativemac.com/2001/11_nov/tutorials/borisfx6a011114.htm

Mark
Former user wrote on 11/10/2010, 7:09 PM
Try actually burning some film and play with luminance and chroma keying. Seriously

Back light a piece of 35mm film. Facing up. Shoot with your camera zoomed as much as you can "don't want to be too close". Light a match under the film.

Then play with different mixing, keying etc with your footage. With the right combination, it could be effective.

Remember the muppet show mastered the art of making things explode by doing keys and cuts at precise frames.

Dave T2
farss wrote on 11/10/2010, 7:20 PM
This is what it looks like, from Artbeats.

Now that's just leader, the OP wants something close to that happening with an image.

Bob.
Rory Cooper wrote on 11/11/2010, 12:49 AM
Cheap way using only media gens



Track 1 expanding white mask = comp cut
Track 2 parent to track 3 same mask as track 1 = comp multiply / no black = no add mask gen. use glow select orange/red
Track 3 noise texture = comp hard light
Track 4 expanding ring / flash = comp ADD
Track 5 image

farss wrote on 11/11/2010, 1:21 AM
It's a nice try but surely you can see how it's nothing like the real thing?

Bob.
Rory Cooper wrote on 11/11/2010, 3:49 AM
You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note. ~Doug Floyd



that’s why artbeats sell clips for compositing so you can composite them with your clips, except in this artbeats clip they used an orange backdrop which is not good, it is better to use a grey 125 thereabouts, this will give you good highs and lows, this applies when you film your own overlays or buy overlays. Digital juice have some very good compositing examples. It also allows you to add colors to the highs and lows

It’s the same as what I did in my first clip, after all this is a discussion on how to do achieve certain results with what you have, and to be creative you have to reflect along different latitudes, even what some may consider opposite to others is the same.

Don't think you're on the right road just because it’s a well-beaten path.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 11/11/2010, 4:12 AM

Like Bob said, it's a nice--very nice--try...

The problem is the black area should be brilliant white, e.g., the "light" from the projector bulb showing through. Also, this is one case where having it centered would work better, too.


farss wrote on 11/11/2010, 5:03 AM
I have no idea what you've managed to embed in your post but it simply does not load, wierd.


Bob.
RRA wrote on 11/11/2010, 6:18 AM
Hi,

Thanks for all replies. I have not noticed, that there is Burnt Film effect included in Boris FX9. This effect is marked as BCC effect and suppose soon or later will be added to BCC7 in update.

I have started this topic thinking about transition, it means that bonfires of effect and his progress should be carefully planed. Looking on BCC description, it will be possible.

Rory, thank you for nice composition idea.

Best regards,


Best regards,