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warriorking wrote on 5/27/2010, 6:39 AM
Not having any issues with Neoscene in Vegas, of course I am using the latest Version 5 just released.....
reberclark wrote on 5/27/2010, 8:00 AM
Using current version5 of NeoScene in 9e - no issues.
IAM4UK wrote on 5/27/2010, 1:57 PM
I recently downloaded the trial of NeoScene 5. It rendered AVCHD clips into huge AVI files just fine, and they loaded into VP9e.

But I also tried using Sony's MXF as an "intermediate" for those AVCHD clips. That worked, too.

Can you help me understand why I might want to shell out the coin for Cineform NeoScene? I'm on the fence about whether it would be worth it, given that MXF is also friendlier than AVCHD in editing.
John_Cline wrote on 5/27/2010, 2:29 PM
MXF is a container format like AVI, MOV, MKV and others. MXF can potentially contain video encoded with a variety of codecs but the way Sony is using it, it contains high-bitrate MPEG2 video. Vegas has gotten very good at editing MPEG2 video. Cineform is a wavelet-based, 10-bit video codec which has several advantages; wavelet-based encoding can't exhibit blocky artifacts like MPEG2 and it is a fully inter-frame codec in that each frame is compressed on it's own and doesn't rely on before and after frames to reconstruct the video. This makes it easier to edit. Other advantages include that its cross-platform compatibility is excellent and it can be wrapped in either AVI or MOV formats. Cineform is visually lossless, MXF, despite looking very good, is not.

On the downside, Cineform costs money and generates larger files.
john_dennis wrote on 5/27/2010, 3:52 PM
John

Excellent, succinct comparison. Just the kind of information that I was looking for.
reberclark wrote on 5/27/2010, 4:22 PM
John Cline's response is an example of why this one of the finest forums on the web. Thanks John!
IAM4UK wrote on 5/28/2010, 3:44 PM
John Cline, I thank you.
(And Cineform will thank you, because based on what I learned from you, I will purchase NeoScene HD 5.)