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Subject: how do YOU do midi?
Posted by: Kappeesh
Date: 12/11/2009 3:21:58 PM

i am in the process of transferring midi songs i composed on my asr10. and since there is no 'easy' way to import individual midi tracks to ap7 (i'm aware of some older ensoniq apps that work in win98) i'm recording each song 'manually, on it's own track.

anyone using older tech similarly or have suggestions?

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date: 12/12/2009 6:18:55 AM

Can you export SMF from the ASR10?
Acid will open SMF format 0 & 1
We do alot of this with older Korg, Roland & Cakewalk projects.

George Ware

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: Kappeesh
Date: 12/12/2009 12:53:49 PM

the asr10 has a proprietary OS/drive/disk system that is similar to apple. i have an apple 1x scsi cd drive for loading instruments. if i could get a smf on a floppy my xp comp couldn't read it without some interpretive software. the song data i have is backed up to those type of floppies.

theoretically, if the asr10 can export smf do you think i could access it through a midi connection?

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date: 12/13/2009 6:14:44 AM

I don't know.......sorry
Can you e-mail me a test midi file from the ASR10?
macmoney@elp.rr.com

George

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: jackn2mpu
Date: 12/13/2009 1:39:25 PM

the asr10 has a proprietary OS/drive/disk system that is similar to apple. i have an apple 1x scsi cd drive for loading instruments. if i could get a smf on a floppy my xp comp couldn't read it without some interpretive software. the song data i have is backed up to those type of floppies.

theoretically, if the asr10 can export smf do you think i could access it through a midi connection?

My reply:
I doubt it, but you could try looking in the manual. Or post your question over on this asr10 forum:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/165665/
To a certain extent what you want to do may be possible if you can send a sysex dump of the smf file from the asr10 to your Acid computer.
Jack

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: pwppch
Date: 12/14/2009 7:11:08 AM

What would you consider an "easy way" to import MIDI tracks? I mean, what is easier than Standard MIDI files?

Peter

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: jackn2mpu
Date: 12/15/2009 8:48:44 AM

Peter said:
What would you consider an "easy way" to import MIDI tracks? I mean, what is easier than Standard MIDI files?

My reply:
Peter: I think the original poster wants to do a dump from his ASR10 right into Acid since he doesn't seem to be able to get a MIDI file out from his ASR on a medium that can be read by the omputer he has Acid on. I know, MIDI files don't care what operating system is being used, but the disk drive in his ASR apparently uses an old disk format that's not readable on a modern machine. There were some weird things done with disk formats back in the day and Apple had a really weird one, for example, that while it used 3.5" floppies, the format was strange.
Jack

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: pwppch
Date: 12/15/2009 12:21:46 PM

Peter: I think the original poster wants to do a dump from his ASR10 right into Acid since he doesn't seem to be able to get a MIDI file out from his ASR on a medium that can be read by the omputer he has Acid on. I know, MIDI files don't care what operating system is being used, but the disk drive in his ASR apparently uses an old disk format that's not readable on a modern machine. There were some weird things done with disk formats back in the day and Apple had a really weird one, for example, that while it used 3.5" floppies, the format was strange.

I understand this. (I use to have an ASR10 back in the day.)

What I am asking is that beyond the SMF file support we have, what does he want as far as a work flow.

The ASR10 is capable of playing back on multiple MIDI channels.

ACID is capable of recording multiple tracks each with a different MIDI channel as a filter.

Since the ASR10 does not support SMF, then the only choice is to record in real-time directly into ACID. The set up for this in ACID is depedent on the song, but even then a simple 16 track ACID project in ACID set up correctly can be used and reused to accomplish the task of getting data from a legacy device.

I just want to know what the OP believes ACID should provide for this special case of a problem.

Peter

Subject: RE: how do YOU do midi?
Reply by: Kappeesh
Date: 12/16/2009 3:01:30 PM

thanks for the response all.

Peter, i guess i was hoping there was a utility or knowledge of a similar scenario from others that could assist. AP is awesome for me and its functionality...was not implying AP should be capable of reading an asr10 disk. (chickensys doesn't have a utility either) but i've had over 120 song to 'translate' and, as you say, the asr10 cannot export a smf. yes, a smf is simple. but i 'was' looking for a 'bulk dump' scenario...

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