OT: Contour ShuttlePRO Opinions

Cliff Etzel wrote on 2/12/2009, 12:43 PM
I'm beginning to run into wrist issues from using a mouse so much while editing -

I have my desk set up as best I can for ergonomics, but I still am having issues since I spend so much time at it either editing or doing web design.

Wanted to get some feedback on the idea of using a Contour ShuttlePro since I wrk in Vegas Pro 8, Sound Forge 9 and the rest of my SONY apps.

Any advice/input/experiences with using it - and does it truly speed up the editing process as well as reduce repetitive use issues? How do you use it - right hand mouse, left hand ShuttlePRO?

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
bluprojekt | solo video journalism blog

Comments

Coursedesign wrote on 2/12/2009, 12:47 PM
I don't ever want to edit without a ShuttlePro again. Ever.

It definitely speeds up editing, using it is loving it....

I use it in my left hand as you describe.

Former user wrote on 2/12/2009, 1:03 PM
I have a Shuttle Pro and Express. Right hand for PRO, left for Express. I also have the JOG knob setup as Timeline Zoom on the Express. Makes it easy to zoom in and out on timeline.

Worth every penny.

Dave T2
bnjenter wrote on 2/12/2009, 1:26 PM
I resoundingly affirm what has been said already. Not only does it speed the physical strain from editing for several hours seems to be relieved somewhat. I guess by the ergonomic changes that take place when using the ContourPro. I've completely customized it to my workflow as you should to yours. It becomes infinately more valuable when it is set up your own needs.

Bob
Grazie wrote on 2/12/2009, 1:48 PM
I go to other studios and my hand reaches for the flat thing! - Now I take my own and with s/w on a USB!

It's intuitive to use and allows for flow while I am thinking of my next move . . .

Wouldn't be seen in Public without it! - It's what my left hand is for . ..

Grazie
erikd wrote on 2/12/2009, 1:55 PM
Grazie sold me on the product several months ago and I love it. The truth is I would be willing to pay more than what it sells for. You won't find a better bang for the buck product to assist your daily editing.
CClub wrote on 2/12/2009, 4:34 PM
The ShuttlePro should be listed on the Vegas packaging in the "minimum recommendations." It takes a little bit -- not a lot -- to get used to, but I can't imagine editing without it. If you do this work to make any significant level of money, you'll save hours a week. I'd recommend reading the manual and adjusting the buttons to your own preferences. It'll help you fly with editing even faster than any presets available for Vegas.
Editguy43 wrote on 2/12/2009, 6:01 PM
Go now and buy it, dont think anymore just buy it. :-)

my edit times have been cut by 30-40 percent with the way that i use the shuttle pro I have wrist problems also and it has reduced my movements allot and the 15 buttons that you can customize for how you work is great. worth every penny.

One word of advice use the pref. files that come with vegas as I have had problems with the one that comes with the shuttle, that one makes the shuttle wheel act funky when trying to run the timeline, and the one that comes with vegas is smooth as glass.
Former user wrote on 2/12/2009, 6:16 PM
Amazon. has a pretty good price on the Xpress and the Pro V2.

Dave T2
John_Cline wrote on 2/12/2009, 6:32 PM
I've got a Shuttle Pro2 and, surprisingly, I don't use it much. I learned all the Vegas keyboard shortcuts and I can edit faster using them than I can with the Shuttle Pro2. I only use the mouse (trackball) occasionally. I guess I really should try to use the Shuttle a little more...
JackW wrote on 2/12/2009, 10:42 PM
I had lots of wrist issues several years ago. A physical therapist recommend a device call Launch Pad , which I've been using for the past ten years now. The beauty of it is that it fully supports your wrist while letting you move the mouse effortlessly. It's like having an extension of the arm of your chair, so your wrist never sags and the heel of your hand never comes in contact with the mouse pad. There's also a version, if you can find it, which allows the entire saddle to move around on the mouse pad. Mine has kept me free from pain for a decade now.

I too use the Shuttle Pro; couldn't work without it now. It lives under my left hand, with the two wide bars on the left side programed for the space bar and escape key. That way I never have to reach for the keyboard to start and stop play. It's a great tool. I also have it programed for split and zoom functions and the "A" key to add from the Trimmer.

Jack
erikd wrote on 2/12/2009, 11:12 PM
Heck, no way I can't recommend this thing for wrist problems. I started using them 7 years ago and they changed my life. The secret is not to roll or twist the wrist but keep it in the joystick alignment position.
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ergonomics/home/products/ergonomicmouse/

Erik
Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 2/12/2009, 11:59 PM
Hi,

Highly recommended!!! As you can see, I'm not alone here with my opinion. I programmed it slightly differently, as the standard setup for Vegas 8. I also use the keyboard a lot, I also use intuitively the most frequent/useful shortcuts, but the Shuttle speeds up the editing even further. The beautiful thing is that it is fully programmable, you can fine tune it according to your personal preferences. If you have not bought it yet, don't hesitate, its worth it's price - works beatutifully with other applications as well...

Christian

WIN10 Pro 64-bit | Version 1903 | OS build 18362.535 | Studio 16.1.2 | Vegas Pro 17 b387
CPU i9-7940C 14-core @4.4GHz | 64GB DDR4@XMP3600 | ASUS X299M1
GPU 2 x GTX1080Ti (2x11G GBDDR) | 442.19 nVidia driver | Intensity Pro 4K (BlackMagic)
4x Spyder calibrated monitors (1x4K, 1xUHD, 2xHD)
SSD 500GB system | 2x1TB HD | Internal 4x1TB HD's @RAID10 | Raid1 HDD array via 1Gb ethernet
Steinberg UR2 USB audio Interface (24bit/192kHz)
ShuttlePro2 controller

baysidebas wrote on 2/13/2009, 6:03 AM
I do a lot of 3 camera multi-cam edits and the shuttle pro has significantly improved my throughput. I set up a preferences configuration specifically addressing multi-cam use and love it!
Former user wrote on 2/13/2009, 6:49 AM
Remember, you can also program the Buttons as MACROS, so if you have a series of keystrokes or functions or scripts, you can access those through the Shuttle.

Dave T2
Grazie wrote on 2/13/2009, 7:16 AM
DT2! Now you have me all a-quiver . . . How do I set a Shut button as a "script" button? Make a CTR+n option and use that as its command?

oooo... nice . ..

Grazie
Former user wrote on 2/13/2009, 8:44 AM
Assigning a button to be "ctrl+n" is very easy.

Open your Shuttle Control Panel, Select the Application under the drop down list, click the BUTTON you want to assign so it is highlighted, in the Button box just click "ctrl and n " at the same time and it will be assigned.

Scripting would have to be assigned to a button I guess, but you can create some macros within the shuttle to allow you to hit a series of keystrokes.

For example I have a macro that allows me to SPLIT a scene and delete it and with ripple on, it will ripple and save me about 4 keystrokes.

Dave T2
reberclark wrote on 2/13/2009, 8:45 AM
I second all that has been written here. Shuttle Prov2 on my left, trackball and Wacom tablet on my right, keyboard in the middle.
Galeng wrote on 2/13/2009, 10:24 AM
I find the Shuttle Pro incredibly useful in 8c. But so far no luck in 8.1. Anybody know of 64bit drivers for it?

Editguy43 wrote on 2/13/2009, 10:59 AM
Galeng
The driver or pref is in the 8.1 folder cant remember if it is in the main or a sub but it is there and just import the 8.1 pref it should work it worked for me.

ReberClark

how is the Wacom pad working for you I have looked at one and it looks interesting does it cause you any hand or wrist pain. also compared to a mouse does it function the same. ie. the wheel on mouse zooms timeline can the pad to that or similar (i use the heck out of the mouse wheel for zoom) Thanks.
reberclark wrote on 2/13/2009, 12:21 PM
The Wacom tablet (I use the Bamboo model) is great for bezier curves. I use it for masks in Vegas as well as for lines in animation programs, controllers in audio programs, lines in my paint program etc.

It has many programmable functions and the pen is used as a mouse pointer, among other things. There is a switch on the pen to handle right-clicks and 5 buttons on the tablet itself which can be assigned to different functions. I use a trackball for regular navigation, however, to reduce wrist strain (Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman), but when I use the Wacom tablet I notice no appreciable strain on my wrist either. The tablet provides very steady and close control over small detail. It was a good buy for me and I didn't need their expensive model.
Galeng wrote on 2/17/2009, 12:03 AM
EditGuy43

Would appreciate more info on setting up Shuttle Pro in VPro 8.1. I can't find an 8.1 pref file any where.

Thanks for your help.

Galen
Editguy43 wrote on 2/17/2009, 9:08 AM
Geleng,
I have Vista 64 and this is the path to where I found the .pref file

C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 8.1 and the file is called:
Sony - Vegaspro 8.1 - Shuttlepro v2.pref

then goto the shuttle control panel click the options button import settings then browse to the sony folder. You probably already know that but I added it just incase :-) if the file is not where mine is let me know and I can email it to you.

Paul B
JJKizak wrote on 2/17/2009, 12:32 PM
I use the shuttle pro and really like it and I don't even know what the hell I'm doing compared to the serious editors on this forum.
JJK
Mahesh wrote on 2/18/2009, 4:24 AM
Is there something wrong with me:(
I prefer to use my right hand for CSPro and left hand for the rodent.