I've recorded on just about everything, and even though my favorite
is 2" tape, you can't go wrong with the Digi. I bought one for home
and I'm amazed at what you get for $799 (Guitar Center). It sounds
great, works like a champ, and to date, has given me virtually no
problems with bugs or crashes. It's enough like the $17,000 TDM
version I use at work, that you've gotta wonder about digidesign.

DW

Jim wrote:
>>That all depends on how you'd be using it. There are still some
bugs
>>to be worked out...same goes for the Digi001. For the most part, I
>>find that there are really no huge problems with Vegas, but some of
>>the serious pros can get frustrated with some of the bugginess
which
>>causes them time & money...not to mention embarassment if a client
is
>>sitting there when things go buggy.
>>
>>Some things to consider:
>>- You don't need to purchase a seperate sound card with the
Digi001,
>>but it costs more and you can't use DX plugins (I think).
>>- If you already have a recording quality sound card, Vegas makes
more
>>sense...and it utilizes DX plugins.
>>
>>
>>Bernard Perry wrote:
>>>>Hi. Does anyone know if Vegas works properly? Thanks for
>>>>your answer. B.P.

On the issue of being able to use DX plugins, why the hell would you
want to when you can use the RTAS and Audio Suite stuff by WAVES,
Bomb Factory...

DW

I've never liked Protools user interface, I haven't used it in a
couple of years, so maybe it's gotten better, but I like how Vegas
automatically changes your cursor tool automatically depending on
where your located in the edit window or on the waveform, and also
everything that you can do at that particular place your located at
is only a right click away. I will be downloading a free copy of the
version 5.1 coming out. Another thing is Pro Tools Digi001 has
problems with the VIA Chipset motherboards. Asus makes one of the
best motherboards and there VIA chipset based. I have an asus K7V
and I can't use Digi001 because of that. Also Pro Tools does not
support Windows 2000 or NT only windows 98 for the Digi001 and the
new 5.1, and they don't have any plans on supporting those OS. You
better do some more
research on the Protools system before jumping into it, but I do
agree 2" is the best thing to record on, it's given me the least
amount of headaches over the years :-), I don't know how to edit with
a razor blade though.

Dick_Withers wrote:
>>I've recorded on just about everything, and even though my favorite
>>is 2" tape, you can't go wrong with the Digi. I bought one for home
>>and I'm amazed at what you get for $799 (Guitar Center). It sounds
>>great, works like a champ, and to date, has given me virtually no
>>problems with bugs or crashes. It's enough like the $17,000 TDM
>>version I use at work, that you've gotta wonder about digidesign.
>>
>>DW
>>
>>Jim wrote:
>>>>That all depends on how you'd be using it. There are still some
>>bugs
>>>>to be worked out...same goes for the Digi001. For the most part,
I
>>>>find that there are really no huge problems with Vegas, but some
of
>>>>the serious pros can get frustrated with some of the bugginess
>>which
>>>>causes them time & money...not to mention embarassment if a
client
>>is
>>>>sitting there when things go buggy.
>>>>
>>>>Some things to consider:
>>>>- You don't need to purchase a seperate sound card with the
>>Digi001,
>>>>but it costs more and you can't use DX plugins (I think).
>>>>- If you already have a recording quality sound card, Vegas makes
>>more
>>>>sense...and it utilizes DX plugins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bernard Perry wrote:
>>>>>>Hi. Does anyone know if Vegas works properly? Thanks for
>>>>>>your answer. B.P.

I tried Vegas, I liked Vegas, but for serious work it can't compete
with Pro tools. I personally think the PT interface is great, but
that's just me (and everybody else on the planet, doing major work).

Sorry about your chipset. Maybe you should do what I did, keep your
PC for what it's good for (games), and get a G4 for your studio ;)
Also, PT has a cursor feature called smart tool, that changes
functions depending on where you place it on the clip.

DW


Brian Franz wrote:
>>I've never liked Protools user interface, I haven't used it in a
>>couple of years, so maybe it's gotten better, but I like how Vegas
>>automatically changes your cursor tool automatically depending on
>>where your located in the edit window or on the waveform, and also
>>everything that you can do at that particular place your located at
>>is only a right click away. I will be downloading a free copy of
the
>>version 5.1 coming out. Another thing is Pro Tools Digi001 has
>>problems with the VIA Chipset motherboards. Asus makes one of the
>>best motherboards and there VIA chipset based. I have an asus K7V
>>and I can't use Digi001 because of that. You better do some more
>>research on the Protools system before jumping into it.
>>
>>Dick_Withers wrote:
>>>>I've recorded on just about everything, and even though my
favorite
>>>>is 2" tape, you can't go wrong with the Digi. I bought one for
home
>>>>and I'm amazed at what you get for $799 (Guitar Center). It
sounds
>>>>great, works like a champ, and to date, has given me virtually no
>>>>problems with bugs or crashes. It's enough like the $17,000 TDM
>>>>version I use at work, that you've gotta wonder about digidesign.
>>>>
>>>>DW
>>>>
>>>>Jim wrote:
>>>>>>That all depends on how you'd be using it. There are still some
>>>>bugs
>>>>>>to be worked out...same goes for the Digi001. For the most
part,
>>I
>>>>>>find that there are really no huge problems with Vegas, but
some
>>of
>>>>>>the serious pros can get frustrated with some of the bugginess
>>>>which
>>>>>>causes them time & money...not to mention embarassment if a
>>client
>>>>is
>>>>>>sitting there when things go buggy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some things to consider:
>>>>>>- You don't need to purchase a seperate sound card with the
>>>>Digi001,
>>>>>>but it costs more and you can't use DX plugins (I think).
>>>>>>- If you already have a recording quality sound card, Vegas
makes
>>>>more
>>>>>>sense...and it utilizes DX plugins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bernard Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi. Does anyone know if Vegas works properly? Thanks for
>>>>>>>>your answer. B.P.

Ahhhh...one of those old school guys,"Macs" are
for "Audio/Sequencing and Multimedia work", and a PC is for "Word
Processing". Maybe you should start picking up some EQ, and Keyboard
magazines and start reading, if you even browse through the adds you
will see 5 PC Audio software compared to every 2 MAC software.
Cubase even releases there new releases on the PC side first, along
with other companies like Adobe(the leader in graphics software). I
do much "Real" work on my PC based audio system. I've used both,
both have there problems....oh I forgot you're too busy trashing your
preferences folder to get your system to work or having to drive a
day to pick up something you can find at every store on the corner
like RAM, if you only worked on a PC. So what do you use for stereo
editing now that Sound Designer is dead?...oh Peak?...That's a swell
program, pick up a copy of Sound Forge and do some real work..."real
professional" . Masterlist is also a swell program for
doing "Redbook" CD's...pick up Wavelab or CD Architect and Truly
learn how to edit!!! I will run circles around you with my PC...oh
excuse me "word processor"....get with the times!!!

Dick_Withers wrote:
>> I tried Vegas, I liked Vegas, but for serious work it can't
compete
>>with Pro tools. I personally think the PT interface is great, but
>>that's just me (and everybody else on the planet, doing major
work).
>>
>> Sorry about your chipset. Maybe you should do what I did, keep
your
>>PC for what it's good for (games), and get a G4 for your studio ;)
>>Also, PT has a cursor feature called smart tool, that changes
>>functions depending on where you place it on the clip.
>>
>>DW
>>
>>
>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>I've never liked Protools user interface, I haven't used it in a
>>>>couple of years, so maybe it's gotten better, but I like how
Vegas
>>>>automatically changes your cursor tool automatically depending on
>>>>where your located in the edit window or on the waveform, and
also
>>>>everything that you can do at that particular place your located
at
>>>>is only a right click away. I will be downloading a free copy of
>>the
>>>>version 5.1 coming out. Another thing is Pro Tools Digi001 has
>>>>problems with the VIA Chipset motherboards. Asus makes one of
the
>>>>best motherboards and there VIA chipset based. I have an asus
K7V
>>>>and I can't use Digi001 because of that. You better do some more
>>>>research on the Protools system before jumping into it.
>>>>
>>>>Dick_Withers wrote:
>>>>>>I've recorded on just about everything, and even though my
>>favorite
>>>>>>is 2" tape, you can't go wrong with the Digi. I bought one for
>>home
>>>>>>and I'm amazed at what you get for $799 (Guitar Center). It
>>sounds
>>>>>>great, works like a champ, and to date, has given me virtually
no
>>>>>>problems with bugs or crashes. It's enough like the $17,000 TDM
>>>>>>version I use at work, that you've gotta wonder about
digidesign.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jim wrote:
>>>>>>>>That all depends on how you'd be using it. There are still
some
>>>>>>bugs
>>>>>>>>to be worked out...same goes for the Digi001. For the most
>>part,
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>find that there are really no huge problems with Vegas, but
>>some
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>the serious pros can get frustrated with some of the
bugginess
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>causes them time & money...not to mention embarassment if a
>>>>client
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>sitting there when things go buggy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Some things to consider:
>>>>>>>>- You don't need to purchase a seperate sound card with the
>>>>>>Digi001,
>>>>>>>>but it costs more and you can't use DX plugins (I think).
>>>>>>>>- If you already have a recording quality sound card, Vegas
>>makes
>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>sense...and it utilizes DX plugins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bernard Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hi. Does anyone know if Vegas works properly? Thanks for
>>>>>>>>>>your answer. B.P.

Maybe YOU ought to go into some major studios and post production
facilities, and see what everybody is using before you pop-off. You
don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that because the PC
platform is 90% of the market, you're going to see a proportional
amount of development in all areas (not just music). I do read EQ and
Mix, and I've watched the endless parade of new PC products come and
go, rarely making a mark.

You cite the "more = better" argument, yet you mostly rely on a
single company (Sonic Foundry) to provide you with the tools you
need. I used to use my PC for everything, now only ACID. I guess that
makes me a "new school" mac guy.

I own Sound Forge, and it sucks. It might have been cool (in the
day) for fixing bad audio files, but most of the processes I
routinely use, are better implemented right in Pro Tools under the
Audio Suite. I can do it all better and faster (IN 24 BIT), and never
leave my recording/editing environment. I also have recent versions
of both Peak, and Spark, either, are preferable to Sound Forge's
stone age interface.

I'm not going to bash Vegas, it's the reason I came to this board in
the first place, but the proof is in the pudding, when Vegas or one
of these other 10,000 bitchin-PC-audio-editors become the industry
standard, I'll chuck my mac out the window. Until then, "you go girl!"

DW




Brian Franz wrote:
>> Ahhhh...one of those old school guys,"Macs" are
>>for "Audio/Sequencing and Multimedia work", and a PC is for "Word
>>Processing". Maybe you should start picking up some EQ, and
Keyboard
>>magazines and start reading, if you even browse through the adds
you
>>will see 5 PC Audio software compared to every 2 MAC software.
>>Cubase even releases there new releases on the PC side first, along
>>with other companies like Adobe(the leader in graphics software).
I
>>do much "Real" work on my PC based audio system. I've used both,
>>both have there problems....oh I forgot you're too busy trashing
your
>>preferences folder to get your system to work or having to drive a
>>day to pick up something you can find at every store on the corner
>>like RAM, if you only worked on a PC. So what do you use for stereo
>>editing now that Sound Designer is dead?...oh Peak?...That's a
swell
>>program, pick up a copy of Sound Forge and do some real
work..."real
>>professional" . Masterlist is also a swell program for
>>doing "Redbook" CD's...pick up Wavelab or CD Architect and Truly
>>learn how to edit!!! I will run circles around you with my PC...oh
>>excuse me "word processor"....get with the times!!!
>>
>>Dick_Withers wrote:
>>>> I tried Vegas, I liked Vegas, but for serious work it can't
>>compete
>>>>with Pro tools. I personally think the PT interface is great, but
>>>>that's just me (and everybody else on the planet, doing major
>>work).
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about your chipset. Maybe you should do what I did, keep
>>your
>>>>PC for what it's good for (games), and get a G4 for your
studio ;)
>>>>Also, PT has a cursor feature called smart tool, that changes
>>>>functions depending on where you place it on the clip.
>>>>
>>>>DW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>>>I've never liked Protools user interface, I haven't used it in
a
>>>>>>couple of years, so maybe it's gotten better, but I like how
>>Vegas
>>>>>>automatically changes your cursor tool automatically depending
on
>>>>>>where your located in the edit window or on the waveform, and
>>also
>>>>>>everything that you can do at that particular place your
located
>>at
>>>>>>is only a right click away. I will be downloading a free copy
of
>>>>the
>>>>>>version 5.1 coming out. Another thing is Pro Tools Digi001 has
>>>>>>problems with the VIA Chipset motherboards. Asus makes one of
>>the
>>>>>>best motherboards and there VIA chipset based. I have an asus
>>K7V
>>>>>>and I can't use Digi001 because of that. You better do some
more
>>>>>>research on the Protools system before jumping into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dick_Withers wrote:
>>>>>>>>I've recorded on just about everything, and even though my
>>>>favorite
>>>>>>>>is 2" tape, you can't go wrong with the Digi. I bought one
for
>>>>home
>>>>>>>>and I'm amazed at what you get for $799 (Guitar Center). It
>>>>sounds
>>>>>>>>great, works like a champ, and to date, has given me
virtually
>>no
>>>>>>>>problems with bugs or crashes. It's enough like the $17,000
TDM
>>>>>>>>version I use at work, that you've gotta wonder about
>>digidesign.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>That all depends on how you'd be using it. There are still
>>some
>>>>>>>>bugs
>>>>>>>>>>to be worked out...same goes for the Digi001. For the most
>>>>part,
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>find that there are really no huge problems with Vegas, but
>>>>some
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>the serious pros can get frustrated with some of the
>>bugginess
>>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>>>>causes them time & money...not to mention embarassment if a
>>>>>>client
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>sitting there when things go buggy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Some things to consider:
>>>>>>>>>>- You don't need to purchase a seperate sound card with the
>>>>>>>>Digi001,
>>>>>>>>>>but it costs more and you can't use DX plugins (I think).
>>>>>>>>>>- If you already have a recording quality sound card, Vegas
>>>>makes
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>sense...and it utilizes DX plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Bernard Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi. Does anyone know if Vegas works properly? Thanks for
>>>>>>>>>>>>your answer. B.P.

Brian Franz Wrote:

>>pick up Wavelab or CD Architect and Truly
>>learn how to edit!!! I will run circles around you with my PC...oh
>>excuse me "word processor"....get with the times!!!


Listen man, besides being a musician, I'm a long time member of the
Editor's Guild (local 700). I've worked on plenty of stuff you've
seen and heard, but hey, if you think Wavelab or CD Architect, or
YOU, can teach me some new tricks, I'm open.

Peace

DW

Well my belief has always been on the MAC vs. PC subject to use the
tool that best suits your needs, and obviously you do the same using
a PC for Acid. So why are you coming here to bash on PC's? I'm not
one of these guys to buy a MAC just because everyone in the industry
is using it. I too have worked in a professional production studio.
The biggest in the Detroit area, and Detroit is in the top 3 for
advertising. So you have seen some of my work also. That facility
used AMS Neve Audiophiles for there recording/editing, they finally
realised that Neve was really dragging their feet on features, and
most of our clients were starting to come in and ask for things on a
PC 'Wave" format. So basically they decided they needed a PC or MAC
to do the things that the audiophile wasn't capable of. This
facility employes approximately 25 audio engineers. They purchased 1-
G4 and 1-Pentium III. I provided the software for the PC side and a
MAC engineer provided the Software for the G4. After 4 months the
studio was more impressed with the PC side of things and how much
more reliable the PC's could be networked together. Even the MAC
guys opinions had swayed, just because they weren't aware of all the
plugins and options that are "now" available on the PC side. And it
didn't really make much sense, seeing that most of the clients we're
coming in asking for WAV files over AIF, and having a MAC put it on
PC formated CDrom in PC Wav format and handing it to a client that
would be presenting it to "their" boss using a PC. We wanted to be
sure what we were giving them something that would actually work for
their presentation. Everyone looks bad, when there's that PC/MAC
compatibilty problem and it doesn't work. So out of those 25 audio
engineers I believe there was 23 that prefered the PC and 2 that
prefered the MAC. So don't come in telling me what I have and
haven't done, I 've got a lot of professional experience, I've worked
with clients Like Campbell Ewald, Bozell Worldwide (now FCB
worldwide),Doner and J.Walter Thompson on a daily basis. My work has
been seen on a national level.

Dick_Withers wrote:
>>Brian Franz Wrote:
>>
>>>>pick up Wavelab or CD Architect and Truly
>>>>learn how to edit!!! I will run circles around you with my
PC...oh
>>>>excuse me "word processor"....get with the times!!!
>>
>>
>>Listen man, besides being a musician, I'm a long time member of the
>>Editor's Guild (local 700). I've worked on plenty of stuff you've
>>seen and heard, but hey, if you think Wavelab or CD Architect, or
>>YOU, can teach me some new tricks, I'm open.
>>
>>Peace
>>
>>DW
>>
>>

Sounds impressive, but...who the hell ARE those guys? hehehe
DW



Brian Franz wrote:
"So don't come in telling me what I have and
haven't done, I 've got a lot of professional experience, I've worked
with clients Like Campbell Ewald, Bozell Worldwide (now FCB
worldwide),Doner and J.Walter Thompson on a daily basis. My work has
been seen on a national level."

They sound like a lot of large advertising agencies to me. Now let's
move this discussion offline please. Correspond with each other by
email since this discussion doesn't really concern any Sonic Foundry
products, the stated mandate of this forum. Thank you.

Dick_Withers wrote:
>>Sounds impressive, but...who the hell ARE those guys? hehehe
>>DW
>>
>>
>>
>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>"So don't come in telling me what I have and
>>haven't done, I 've got a lot of professional experience, I've
worked
>>with clients Like Campbell Ewald, Bozell Worldwide (now FCB
>>worldwide),Doner and J.Walter Thompson on a daily basis. My work
has
>>been seen on a national level."
>>