OT: vegas 8 on linux (please vote)

dreamlx wrote on 10/12/2008, 2:29 AM
Hi,

Numerous people already stated that they are interested in running Vegas 8 on linux under wine. In order to make it happen, I think if you are interested in this, it would be good to vote for it on winehq: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11434. As Vegas requires .net framework 3.0 it would also be good yo vote for this one: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9828. Well I gave it the first vote, it's now up to you :-)

Bye,
David Arendt

Comments

Seth wrote on 10/16/2008, 4:52 PM
I've voted on both, but I'm a little biased; I am a super-maintainer of all the other SCS apps on winehq. Have you used my tutorial to install Vegas 5 on Mac OS yet?
video777 wrote on 10/16/2008, 9:06 PM
NEVER!
CorTed wrote on 10/17/2008, 8:34 AM
It runs perfectly fine under Windows Vista 32/64
DrLumen wrote on 10/17/2008, 12:01 PM
I'd like to vote that SCS port ALL their apps to linux.

They should get a jump on Adobe and Avid otherwise they will end up behind again. Also, just because they port to linux does NOT mean they have to be free.

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mdopp wrote on 10/17/2008, 12:23 PM
Thanks to Vista I have switched to Mac four months ago and I could not be happier.
The only reason why I still have Vista installed as dual boot on a second partition is Vegas Pro.
So my vote goes to Vegas for Mac !
Martin

andymace wrote on 10/17/2008, 8:22 PM
Back when Linux had next to no commercial apps running on it, I was a big supporter of porting. Wine barely ran Solitare properly and native apps just seemed like the way to go. In time Wine got better and commercial apps started appearing for Linux. I learned one thing. The only thing buggy about Linux is Wine and commercial apps. The whole reason to run Linux is to be free of the pains of Windows and commercial apps. If Cinelerra or Kino don't have what you need then bite the bullet and keep your windows partition. Vegas runs just fine on Windows and .net assures it will stay there.

Of course if you just like to fool around then Wine is great!!
Bluespoet wrote on 10/17/2008, 8:41 PM
First of all Vegas is never going to be ported to a Mac. Apple I think is up to 4% market share. Even Apple recognizes the decline by gradually discontinuing firewire so hdv camcorders cannot hook up to most of the laptops.
What most realize that apple is a portable music player and telephone company that started out in computers.
So when you have a product that is growing and is a market leader and Apple whose computer market share is dismal and are cutting their losses, but at the same time ignoring and aliginating home video production.
The problem with Vegas on Linux is getting Cineform on Linux and Neat video on linux and particle illusion on same.
So Vegas is at the heart of the system.
video777 wrote on 10/17/2008, 9:49 PM
For those few people who seem to have problems with Windows (XP or Vista), I just don't get it. I run both and XP with SP3 runs flawlessly. Vista requires more of everything; faster CPU, more RAM, better video card. Still it is amazing when you install SP1 and have the resources. Yes, I know you can run Linux on a 486 and it's faster than a modern Windows system (okay that's a pretty huge exaggeration but that's what some people would have you believe). I like Linux, don't like Macs, and love Windows. My XP system with my dual 20.1" widescreen monitors and 3TB of hard drive space is loaded with dozens of programs for graphics manipulation, audio and video editing and just about everything multimedia-related out there. I am an extremely happy Windows owner!!!
Seth wrote on 10/20/2008, 5:22 PM
@ video777
Right on. By all means, keep loving Windows.

NO ONE IS ASKING YOU ABOUT YOUR OS PREFERENCE.

It was a simple request to lend some support to a project that will help more people enjoy Vegas on more platforms. That's all. No anti-Windows rants. No anti-SCS FUD.

So if you don't support it, fine, then don't help us. But please stop trying to hold us down.
Seth wrote on 10/20/2008, 5:30 PM
@ andymace

DreamWorks Animation has several Windows apps running under Wine which are critical to the running of the studio.
Google actually releases much of their cross-platform apps under wine too. (Think Googe Earth, Picasa, and soon Chrome)

Hmm... seems to work for them. Maybe that's why I've had Vegas 5, along with Magic Bullet Movie Looks, running on Wine, and usable at that, for some time.
.net is a big hurdle to getting Vegas Pro 8 to run on Linux, to be sure, but there's no reason that an open source implementation of .net such as Mono couldn't be used to bridge that gap.
Seth wrote on 10/20/2008, 5:35 PM
@ Bluespoet

I have Vegas 5 running on Mac OS via DarWine right now. So... where does that leave room for words like 'never'?

On that note, the Cineform codec already runs like a champ on Mac OS now, since they ported it to Quicktime. And HuffYUV (as well as many other popular Windows-only codecs) runs on Mac OS by using an open-source program called Perian just fine. So why not Linux...?
CorTed wrote on 10/20/2008, 5:56 PM
@ Idiot Savant

I totally agree, I still have my problems. But If they can't seeem to get it perfect on Windows, what makes one think they can do it on a much less supported OS.
video777 wrote on 10/20/2008, 6:23 PM
@ video777 Right on. By all means, keep loving Windows.
Thank you.
Bluespoet wrote on 10/20/2008, 6:30 PM
Dear Idiot:
Sony has not released a version of Sony Vegas for Mac.
It is unlikely that it will ever do so, unless Apple can turn itself around and reinvent itself into a computer company again.
Please do not twist my words, no one is fooled.
The world has turned its back on Apple computers and that includes cutting edge software such as Sony Vegas.
When people start using Apple computers and software again then companies such as Sony will write software for it.
3-4% Market share is pretty small. In addition when compared to FCP. When you consider the audio capabilities, the compositing capability and video editing out of the box with Sony, FCP is no equal and you have to add Logic and Adobe Aftereffects, just to do what Sony does out of the box, forgetting that you have to buy a multi thousand dollar apple computer with a very expensive video card on top of that, Logic, Adobe aftereffects will put you another2 grand or more. So the cost of a basic apple set up with computer and software is about $5K just to do what a plain vanilla PC and Vegas can do for under a grand.
That is why the tsunami of video editors around the world have abandoned the Apple Platform for the PC

GlennChan wrote on 10/20/2008, 9:28 PM
I would prefer SCS sticking to Windows and putting its development efforts into making Vegas on Windows better.

Cross-platform development takes some time and would be a distraction IMO.
Steve Mann wrote on 10/20/2008, 11:04 PM
>> Cross-platform development takes some time and would be a distraction IMO.

And would likely cost a LOT more due to the smaller market base.
daryl wrote on 10/21/2008, 6:26 AM
By the time I got to the last post, I had to go back to the top to see what the subject is, so, I vote "yes", I'd like to see Vegas on Linux.
Can we stick to the topic from this point on? I doubt it.
Daryl
John_Cline wrote on 10/21/2008, 10:19 AM
And exactly what would be the advantage of running Vegas under Linux? I typically use a number of different applications in a project, not just Vegas, so unless I could run each and every one of them under Linux, there would be no advantage to me whatsoever. My vote is "no", it would be a monumental waste of SCS resources to port it over. It will never happen anyway.
Steven Myers wrote on 10/21/2008, 10:43 AM
please stop trying to hold us down

If SCS' dedicating development resources on Linux didn't distract from other activities, I'd vote yes.
But since resources are finite, and since I reserve my quixotic energies for libertarian politics -- not the computer business -- I vote no.
dreamlx wrote on 10/21/2008, 11:11 AM
I think we should reread the first message, it was not about Sony porting Vegas to linux. It was about voting for Vegas as an application on winehq (wine is a windows emulator for linux) so that they (the wine developpers, not Sony) will implement the missing calls to let the windows version of Vegas on linux.
John_Cline wrote on 10/21/2008, 11:30 AM
OK, but I still don't see the benefit for me as I run a lot of other apps (mostly graphics and audio) and everything runs fine under Windows. I guess I just don't understand the appeal of Linux, as far as I can tell, for most people it's simply that Linux isn't Windows. If Vegas was significantly faster under winehq, I might consider it. If the wine developers want to make the effort, then who am I to stop them?
nedski wrote on 10/21/2008, 12:30 PM
YES, make Vegas work with Linux and OSX and Solaris and HPUX and AIX and Amiga OS and DOS.

AFTER...... Sony has made the Windows version with all the features that have been requested and all the features of all other competing editing/compositing/2D3D effects software and squashes all bugs that crop up during the development. And when their market share is greater than Final Cut and Avid.

UNTIL THEN..... Sony shouldn't waste a minute of their resources on porting Vegas, or any of their other software, to other operating systems. :-)

Nedski

P.S. Can you port Vegas to my HP-41C soon? How about my cell phone? ;-)
daryl wrote on 10/21/2008, 12:53 PM
G'day John Cline. I greatly value your opinions and advice, so I'm not being rude. You asked "why" and mentioned that "people like Linux just because it's not Windows", in my case I disagree, I like Linux because it is the fastest, most stable OS there is, that I have run. So, if there was a Linux version of Vegas, it would greatly benefit me because I like the Linux OS. Do I want Sony to take away from working on Vegas for Windows, no, of course not, but would I LIKE to see Vegas on Linux, yes.