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blink3times wrote on 9/18/2008, 5:41 AM
In 8.1 or 8c??

In the case of 8.1... it doesn't accept most 32 bit plugins.

In the case of 8c.... the only thing I can think of is that you still have 8b installed and you have installed 8c in parallel?

If this is the case then your plugins have already been installed and assigned to 8b. Remove 8b and c then reinstall c (This is the problem that I faced anyway)
rs170a wrote on 9/18/2008, 5:53 AM
the only thing I can think of is that you still have 8b installed and you have installed 8c in parallel?

I don't see how that's possible as 8.0c should install over top of 8.0b.
It's always behaved this way for me with any and all upgrades I've ever done.

Mike
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/18/2008, 6:45 AM

It's 8c. And yes, it installed over 8.

I never got around to installing 8b.

pmooney wrote on 9/18/2008, 7:54 AM
I've got this problem, too. I've installed, uninstalled, and re-installed 8.0c and there are no Sony Direct X plugins loaded with the program. The three default plugins that appear on every audio track show "unregistered" as their individual plug-in names. The Sony Plugins, including the Izoptope Mastering Bundle that you install separately (with Sound Forge 9) are no where to be found.
musicvid10 wrote on 9/18/2008, 8:37 AM
Check the Shared Plugins folder in your Program Files -> Sony location.
If the plugins are there, try this trick from the old days:

1) Close Vegas.
2) Temporarily rename Shared Plug-Ins to something else; i.e., Shared Plug-InsTEMP
3) Restart Vegas. Although it will find no plugins, this step is important.
4) Close Vegas.
5) Rename the folder back to Shared Plug-Ins.
6) Open Vegas. It should "find" the plugins now.

If the plugins are really missing, they are contained in .cab folders in the Sony Setup folder. Reinstalling the apps from that folder should restore them.

As a note: I always back up the shared plugins folder every time I install, uninstall, or upgrade a Sony product. The "disappearing plugins" behavior was actually pretty common in the pre-Sony era of SF apps. Besides backing up, this keeps older versions of plugins intact in case I have need to revert.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/18/2008, 2:48 PM

I've looked in the cab folders and don't really know what I'm looking for. Can we be more specific?

musicvid10 wrote on 9/18/2008, 6:41 PM
Jay, are you saying the plugins are missing from the Shared Plugins folder?

If so, reinstalling from the Sony Setup folder should take care of it. There should be a Setup.exe in each app folder. Uninstalling the app the plugins originally came with and running Setup.exe should reinstall the plugins to their proper destinations.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/19/2008, 5:29 AM

are you saying the plugins are missing from the Shared Plugins folder?

Well, they are not showing up in the plug-in selector in Vegas.

So let me get this straight... On my system there's the "Sony Set Up folder". In that are six "folders", one of which is "Vegas Pro 8." In that folder is "Setup.exe". So I should use that file to do the reinstall?

pmooney wrote on 9/19/2008, 8:22 AM
My computer has two accounts.

The default account, to which all programs are installed, runs Vegas 8.0c correctly with all the Sony Plugins showing.

The second account, created for users connected to a domain, also runs Vegas 8.0C, but the Sony Plugins are not accessible. The three dafault plugins that appear on every audio track look visible, but have "unregistered" in parentheses as their name. The plugins are also not visible from the plug-in dock when you select the Sony folder.

From windows explorer, on both accounts, you can see the icons for the plugins in the Sony "shared plugins" folder.

I've never had this happen on any previous vegas installation using the same setup.

Any idea on how to get Vegas to "register" or reregister its own Sony plugins? I tried the method of changing the folder name as described above, but that did not work.
musicvid10 wrote on 9/19/2008, 8:51 AM
**are you saying the plugins are missing from the Shared Plugins folder?**
**Well, they are not showing up in the plug-in selector in Vegas.**

That wasn't my question.

Jay, before you decide to reinstall Vegas, will you please look for the Shared Plug-Ins folder in C:\Program Files\Sony. Are the plugins still there?? If so, you may not need to reinstall, because the renaming drill I detailed above may work, and reinstallation may not. The shared plugins folder contains plugins installed by Vegas, Sound Forge, and other Sony apps, to be shared among the applications.

So, if the plugins are truly not in the Shared Plug-Ins folder, you would possibly need to uninstall and reinstall all the apps that put the plugins there in the first place -- Vegas, Sound Forge, whatever. This is a highly unlikely scenario, so that's why I put my suggestions in sequential order. Probably Vegas just forgot to look for them. (I don't run multiple accounts so I don't know exactly how to troubleshoot pmooney's problem, however if you're running Vista, try temporarily giving the other user Administrator privileges, or temporarily turning User Account Control "off".)
Grazie wrote on 9/22/2008, 8:44 AM
Jay? Did you come right?

Grazie
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/22/2008, 11:11 AM

Hi, Grazie. No, I didn't, actually. Frankly, I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do or where to turn. I guess I could go back to version 8 and try again (I failed to download version 8b).

Thanks for asking!

Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/22/2008, 11:13 AM

MV, there were no apps other than Vegas 8. That's why I'm so confused and frustrated.

Terje wrote on 9/23/2008, 1:42 AM
Check the directory C:\Program Files\Sony\Shared Plug-Ins

Is it there? Are there any plugins in it? Each plugin has a separate directory there.

If it is there. Start Vegas. Check for plugins. Not there? Stop Vegas.
Rename Plugin directory (mentioned above) to something like Shared Plug-Ins.bak
Start Vegas
Stop Vegas
Copy everything from the Shared Plug-Ins.bak into the Shared Plug-Ins directory
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/23/2008, 7:42 AM

Terje, I tried that. It didn't work.

Someone mentioned it elsewhere. In previous versions (as recently as 8), when you opened the audio plug-in chain in a project there were three plug-ins in the chain whether you put them there or not. With 8c they're gone.

Is this something Sony dumped or am I missing something with the upgrade or was it a bad install?