Sony Vegas is running on Ubuntu
Jonathan Neal
wrote on 2/26/2008, 8:54 AM
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fldave
wrote on 2/26/2008, 9:01 AM
Is it faster? Also, what version of Vegas, does that say 5.0?
john-beale
wrote on 2/26/2008, 9:18 AM
Getting any version of Vegas running on a Linux system is very interesting, there has been a real shortage of usable NLE software on that platform.
That said, the screenshot is Vegas 5; so is that really "Sony Vegas" or was that back before the buyout (eg. Sonic Foundry Vegas) ? I thought that the current versions of Vegas are deeply entrenched in MS technologies like the .NET framework (whatever that means).
That said, the screenshot is Vegas 5; so is that really "Sony Vegas" or was that back before the buyout (eg. Sonic Foundry Vegas) ? I thought that the current versions of Vegas are deeply entrenched in MS technologies like the .NET framework (whatever that means).
riredale
wrote on 2/26/2008, 1:16 PM
Wow, this is fascinating to me. I really, really want to say adios to the Windows environment asap, and have always thought Wine (a) could only run a few Windows programs, and (b) ran really slowly on those apps that didn't crash.
Now it appears that Wine is much more evolved than all that. In fact, by clicking through the previously-referenced link, I came across this page showing Linux/Wine performance versus XPpro. Wine is actually FASTER than native Windows for many situations. It looks like Wine really suffers with some apps making heavy use of certain video cards. If so, this is irrelevant for Vegas.
Has anyone tried running V7 or V8 under Wine? This might be very interesting...
Now it appears that Wine is much more evolved than all that. In fact, by clicking through the previously-referenced link, I came across this page showing Linux/Wine performance versus XPpro. Wine is actually FASTER than native Windows for many situations. It looks like Wine really suffers with some apps making heavy use of certain video cards. If so, this is irrelevant for Vegas.
Has anyone tried running V7 or V8 under Wine? This might be very interesting...
BrianStanding
wrote on 2/26/2008, 2:49 PM
"Has anyone tried running V7 or V8 under Wine? This might be very interesting..."
Might try it myself this weekend...
Might try it myself this weekend...
BrianStanding
wrote on 2/26/2008, 2:53 PM
blink3times
wrote on 2/26/2008, 3:31 PM
Interesting!
When get the feel of it, let us know how well it works.
When get the feel of it, let us know how well it works.
jetdv
wrote on 2/26/2008, 6:34 PM
That said, the screenshot is Vegas 5; so is that really "Sony Vegas" or was that back before the buyout (eg. Sonic Foundry Vegas) ? I
Vegas 4 was current when it was purchased by Sony. In fact, the initial releases of Vegas 4 were "Sonic Foundry" and the last updates to Vegas 4 were "Sony".
Vegas 4 was current when it was purchased by Sony. In fact, the initial releases of Vegas 4 were "Sonic Foundry" and the last updates to Vegas 4 were "Sony".
Chienworks
wrote on 2/26/2008, 7:54 PM
Not to mention it says "Sony Vegas" right in the title bar. It wouldn't have said that back when Sonic Foundry was still the owner.
rmack350
wrote on 2/26/2008, 10:05 PM
I think the issue was whether dot net was required on the version being shown.
I didn't look too hard at the Wine site but I did notice a few mentions of running dot net 2.0. I didn't check to see if they were claiming success.
Rob Mack
I didn't look too hard at the Wine site but I did notice a few mentions of running dot net 2.0. I didn't check to see if they were claiming success.
Rob Mack
TLF
wrote on 2/27/2008, 4:17 AM
This is very interesting. If Vegas 8 could run on Linux, that's the last reason I need to move away from Windows completely.
apit34356
wrote on 2/27/2008, 4:54 AM
This could be a big thing for linux and NLEs!
DJPadre
wrote on 2/27/2008, 5:06 AM
what id like to see is Vegas on PS3... wow.. can u imagine the grunt behind that?
Or if we cant have the entire NLE, how bout just letting it run as a network render node?
Or if we cant have the entire NLE, how bout just letting it run as a network render node?
marks27
wrote on 2/27/2008, 5:42 AM
Combined with this, http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/20/1837204, linux is building serious steam.
Video NLE's are definitely the weak link with Linux.
Vegas is the only reason I run Windows -- for me it is the killer app. Imagine, Vegas on an OS with good memory management and a decent paging algorithm. Sigh....
Ciao,
marks
Video NLE's are definitely the weak link with Linux.
Vegas is the only reason I run Windows -- for me it is the killer app. Imagine, Vegas on an OS with good memory management and a decent paging algorithm. Sigh....
Ciao,
marks
jetdv
wrote on 2/27/2008, 5:53 AM
I think the issue was whether dot net was required on the version being shown.
.NET has been required since Vegas 4 for scripting. However, I'm not sure it was "required" unless you used scripting until a later version.
.NET has been required since Vegas 4 for scripting. However, I'm not sure it was "required" unless you used scripting until a later version.
mcvap
wrote on 2/27/2008, 6:01 AM
what id like to see is Vegas on PS3...
That's nice thought on useful integration.
That's nice thought on useful integration.
dreamlx
wrote on 2/27/2008, 12:07 PM
Hi,
I just did some tests using the newest version of wine:
net framework 2.0 installs
net framework 3.0 fails
vegas 8 installer fails because of missing .net framework 3.0
vegas 7 installs, can be executed, can be activated, but cannot be run
Bye,
David Arendt
I just did some tests using the newest version of wine:
net framework 2.0 installs
net framework 3.0 fails
vegas 8 installer fails because of missing .net framework 3.0
vegas 7 installs, can be executed, can be activated, but cannot be run
Bye,
David Arendt
Jayster
wrote on 2/27/2008, 2:06 PM
I looked at that Mono project a week ago, curious about moving some .NET web apps over to Linux. The mono project provides only partial support for .NET 2.0. And anyway, it's for porting code into Linux and recompiling. Nothing whatsoever to do with running something in WINE. Also, I'm no expert about WINE, but I have no idea what installing a .NET framework in WINE would actually do. It's not like there's a windows operating system to add system files to, is there?
dreamlx
wrote on 2/27/2008, 2:26 PM
In fact wine emulates also the windows file system structure and so applications can also install system files.
BrianStanding
wrote on 2/27/2008, 2:53 PM
Hey dreamlx,
I was going to try to replicate your test this weekend. I got as far as trying to install .Net 3 and Vegas 8, and got the same results you did. I installed Mono, too, but it didn't seem to make any difference.
I'll try Net 2.0 and V7 tonight or tomorrow.
Did you get any error messages from Vegas 7, or did it just bomb out with no explanation?
On another note, here's yet another open-source Dot Net replacement project:
http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/pnet-packages.html
Their documentation is a little sketchy. I can't quite figure out how to install or use it, yet. I may try installing the Windows executables into Wine and see what happens.
I was going to try to replicate your test this weekend. I got as far as trying to install .Net 3 and Vegas 8, and got the same results you did. I installed Mono, too, but it didn't seem to make any difference.
I'll try Net 2.0 and V7 tonight or tomorrow.
Did you get any error messages from Vegas 7, or did it just bomb out with no explanation?
On another note, here's yet another open-source Dot Net replacement project:
http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/pnet-packages.html
Their documentation is a little sketchy. I can't quite figure out how to install or use it, yet. I may try installing the Windows executables into Wine and see what happens.
dreamlx
wrote on 2/27/2008, 9:19 PM
Wine died with a segmentation fault even before the splash screen showed up.
BrianStanding
wrote on 2/28/2008, 6:51 AM
Yeesh! Sounds ugly.
I'm trying to install dotnetfx 2.0 in Wine, and it's asking for Internet Explorer 5.01. (If I keep having to install more and more MS rubbish, it's going to defeat the purpose of doing this in Ubuntu. Oh, how I wish Sony would just release a Linux-native version of Vegas!) dreamlx, did you find a way around this?
I will try to find a copy of IE5 on one of my old install disks.
VMWare may be another option, but then I would have to install a complete, licensed copy of Windows as well. Might be better off sticking with dual-boot for now.
I'm trying to install dotnetfx 2.0 in Wine, and it's asking for Internet Explorer 5.01. (If I keep having to install more and more MS rubbish, it's going to defeat the purpose of doing this in Ubuntu. Oh, how I wish Sony would just release a Linux-native version of Vegas!) dreamlx, did you find a way around this?
I will try to find a copy of IE5 on one of my old install disks.
VMWare may be another option, but then I would have to install a complete, licensed copy of Windows as well. Might be better off sticking with dual-boot for now.
4eyes
wrote on 2/28/2008, 8:04 AM
Uugh, What's that smell? Install windows programs on Linux?
What a horrible death!
What a horrible death!
dreamlx
wrote on 2/28/2008, 11:44 AM
dontnetfx 2.0 is installing without Internet Explorer here. Are you sure you are running the latest version of wine ? Also try to rename ~/.wine to ~/.wine.old and rerun winecfg in order to regenerate configuration files.
I also tried the vmware approach, it is working well, but I don't like the idea to slow the system even more down by running a full Windows in Vmware.
I also tried the vmware approach, it is working well, but I don't like the idea to slow the system even more down by running a full Windows in Vmware.
4eyes
wrote on 2/28/2008, 12:11 PM
Awhile back I use to use this software, comes with a pretty full version of wine.
You can install their approved programs and also perform custom installs to get other windows software running.
I had many other apps running that were outside of their list of approved programs.
With the power of the newer pc's and newer versions it should be much faster.
That is, if your into running windows software in a Linux environment.
I ended up taking the easy route, 2 computers linked together via a 1 gig network.
I wouldn't recommend Win4Lin either. If your serious I feel that Vmware is a better way to go, especially on a quad machine.
CrossOver For Linux
Windows programs you can run under Linux
If you want to test out Vmware you could use the 30 day trial. The VMPlayer is free and plays the VM machines created by Vmware workstation. So install VMPlayer and download an appliance virtual machine which is already preconfigured to run Unbuntu, many other apps. The VMplayer is freeware and available for windows & Linux.
VMWare Workstation
VMWare Player
BTW - Mac's are Linux Based Computers.
You can install their approved programs and also perform custom installs to get other windows software running.
I had many other apps running that were outside of their list of approved programs.
With the power of the newer pc's and newer versions it should be much faster.
That is, if your into running windows software in a Linux environment.
I ended up taking the easy route, 2 computers linked together via a 1 gig network.
I wouldn't recommend Win4Lin either. If your serious I feel that Vmware is a better way to go, especially on a quad machine.
CrossOver For Linux
Windows programs you can run under Linux
If you want to test out Vmware you could use the 30 day trial. The VMPlayer is free and plays the VM machines created by Vmware workstation. So install VMPlayer and download an appliance virtual machine which is already preconfigured to run Unbuntu, many other apps. The VMplayer is freeware and available for windows & Linux.
VMWare Workstation
VMWare Player
BTW - Mac's are Linux Based Computers.