I am looking forward to what they will support in Vegas.
I have three pieces of glass that I think is a must but so many effects are
just too expensive to try.

Thx Mike for the link.

Right re filters, I like the gobo ones too.

I just called them, talked w/Hillary, who said it's ok for me to post on the forum, re:

- release date mid June
- MSRP: $599
- they're working on the video post production parts right now

looks like an interesting filter set!

Ken

Drooling ? eh, not so much . . .

I use my "optical" filters to acquire what I see:

A] NDs Grads and solids - This to balance the light in front of me. IE sky is too bright; everything is too bright; left/right hand side to bright

B] Polas - This for getting more richness from light coming back at me from particular direction and to take the reflect of glass.

I repeat, I use filters to acquire the image. I'm imagining that these FXs are executed in post, and are applied at a point when the camera has finished its work? Or have I got it wrong?

My point is, if it ain't in the camera to start with, then . . . . yeah?

If this is so then those buying these are using an FX to simulate what "real" filters do. How can a post filter get rid of reflects OR reduce the brights from a really overly exposed area? My NDs and polas can. My point here is that I wouldn't like individuals thinking that they can pull back detail from very overexposed capture during post? And more to the point, somebody, SOMEBODY is going to get the wrong end of the stick.

I will re-read and see what I could do with them . .

But hey, thanks for the Heads-Up! Always always interested in anything that I can do with "light", pre- OR post- .

G

MSRP: $599

Man, that sucks! In their news release, they state the price as $299.95. That's an awfully big spread!

from my limited understanding.... I think one's for still photos only, eg the PS plug-in, but the one w/video plugin support costs more...

ken

Well, The GoBos look fascinating. But haven't they just exchanged a "green-screen" for a golden on? Or do we get a chance to mask the bg from the "Bearded-One" - as per the Doggie?

If that mask will actually "move" with the shaggy-dog? The two mask lines - Green and Red - look like the low and high pass for attenuating the details. Interesting. C'mon Madison!!! - But much of the other stuff I can kinda wing-it in Vegas? Am I still missing something?

Yes, Jay, the price is a big variant . . and yes I will most probably put my name down as a "Suck-N-See" . . .er . . person.

I think one's for still photos only

nawwwhhh . . sucks!!

Again most of that I'm sure I can wing in Vegas, with a couple of garbage matts.

Oh well .. . tried 4 times to tell 'em I was interested . .4 times it said I hadn't entered a valid email .. . sorry Tiffen . . I'm off for tiffin!

G

You're probably right, Ken. It sure would be a great help if they made that more clear on their web site--very misleading, IMHO, enough to put me off the idea.

Interesting that they don't seem to have heard of the well established and highly esteemed Digital Film Tools 55mm filter emulation software for Photoshop, After Effects, Avid, and Final Cut Pro. See http://www.digitalfilmtools.com/55mm/.

It is now in Version 7.... $245 for Photoshop, $495 for AE, and a lot less than that if you were at NAB.

I have it and love it.

Bjorn, I find it very interesting that both sites use the same image for their example of an "infrared" filter.

By the way, the filtered image(s) do not look like "infared." Can anyone point out the telltale culprit?

Their display of what's available is pretty unimpressive. I only saw one thing that was better than what i can already do in Vegas, and that was Halo. I played around with Vegas for a bit and got very close with duplicating the track, using gaussian blur, color curves, and glow, but not quite there. Even the gobos are pretty easy to do in Vegas if you have a relatively plain background.

And, Vegas does all this on video, not just stills.

Oh, and what's up with the filter named "Photographic"? That's kinda like showing a picture of a ham & cheese on rye and naming it "sandwich".

Nice one Kelso!! - My sentiments exactly.

Infrared? Eh? But if they could do a tracking/moving mask for a Gobo - woah!! Now THAT would be something.

The foliage.

Probably of limited use with DV, with dpx / RAW, might be worthwhile, no doubt with a price to match.
Bob.

Their examples didn't seem that impressive. Maybe it was their choices, but I kind of doubt it. The high contrast examples look like they are intended strictly for photography and even at that there are existing free tools that can accomplish much of the same.

For that price it definitely looks like something that one shouldn't buy until some test reports have been done especially for video.

John

The foliage.

BINGO!

Bob, you've won a life-time supply of Sony software and upgrades. Grazie will be picking up the tab. ;o)

They OEM-licensed 55mm + Snap from Digital Film Tools and changed the filter parameters from some of their competitors' filters to their own equivalents.

The "infrared" filter isn't meant to be exact any more than Photoshop's "water color" effects, etc.

I used to shoot a lot of infrared color film, and found that to be a lot more useful than b&w IR.

Maybe I'm missing something also but I'm not impressed. Other than a couple of effects, they look like some type of color layer presets. That kind of money for some presets would be nothing but a loss.

The gobo thing is kinda cool but only good for stills and easily recreated in a graphics app.

These filters are not for everybody. They're not even for 1% of video makers. Heck, not even 0.1%.

But for those who need some of these filters on a more ongoing basis, they save time.

Maybe we've overlooked something.
Many of the filters cannot really be emulated in post, you just cannot do what they achieve in front of the lens. However if you're shooting film you don't know how things will turn out until you get the dailies.
So this tool might be very handy. Take a still with a DSC, drop it into PS and apply the same filter as you intend to put on the lens.
It's not going to be exactly the same but it'll let you check for any unintended effects.

Bob.

This filter software is now available. Stand alone or plug-ins. 15 day trial. Was playing around with the Photoshop plug-in and the presets are pretty cool.

http://www.tiffen.com/products.html?tablename=dfx