OT: Wedding Audio

cervama wrote on 4/4/2007, 3:40 PM
Hello all, just wanted some information.

I'm doing a two camera shoot wedding and I'm using a VX2100 and a PD170. The PD170 has no wireless mic I want that camera to be on the groom is this wireless mic acceptable to be used for the camera? Thanks your help is appreciated.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=AZWLXPRO&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=3656

Thanks MAC

Comments

DavidMcKnight wrote on 4/4/2007, 3:53 PM
Depends on your definition of acceptable. In the case of wireless mics, Azden doesn't have the best reputation, and you generally get what you pay for.

Do you use a wireless with your 2100? What kind is it, and does it work for you?

Back to the Azden, the first time it goes out on you you'll feel like it was $130 wasted and you'll have to pay that much more for a better one. If this is for ongoing use I would look at a UHF system, I think a lot of people use Sennheiser G2, or if this is a one time deal, maybe you could rent a better system for the gig?

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In the same price range, I think this is the one that Spot has recommended in the past -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=8907&A=details&Q=&sku=68055&is=REG
cervama wrote on 4/4/2007, 4:28 PM
The other one I use is a Sony that came with kit from B&H it's ok.

Sony's is UHF.

Thanks for the info.
cervama wrote on 4/4/2007, 4:32 PM
It's still VHF. I really want to get a good one. Cool deal i can use another one that won't break down so soon. Is UHF better than VHF?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=8907&A=details&Q=&sku=68055&is=REG
DGates wrote on 4/4/2007, 4:56 PM
UHF is considered to be a better quality system than VHF.

I actually started with that Azden mic many years ago when I started doing weddings. I then progressed to a Samson wireless system, then MiniDisc, and finally iRiver. With an MP3 recorder, you get better audio than any wireless system, because you never have any static or feedback problems.

But to answer your question, I'd stay away from VHF mics. They may work fine 75% of the time, but that other 25% will make you cringe, especially when it's an important part of the ceremony.

Zelkien69 wrote on 4/4/2007, 5:56 PM
I just purchased a sennheiser mic set, see it here at BH http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=9449&A=details&Q=&sku=349265&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation and it is a great sounding mic. I actually went through a retailer on Ebay and bought it new for $475. I had a VHF AZden set (WR22) and transmitters and they have severe limitations. They would pic up static at 20' and drop signal if I went on another room. Do your self a favor and buy UHF.
Baron Oz wrote on 4/6/2007, 6:37 AM
I agree, I use the Sennheiser G2 system and it seems to be flawless. Great sound, small size, excellent range and runs forever off AA batteries.

Ted
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/6/2007, 7:13 AM
if you've got $$ and want the best in the sub 5K range, look into the new AT1800 series. Just bought one, and can't rave enough about it. Two transmitters, (one body/one buttplug) and dual channel, diversity UHF reciever. Fits a Bauer mount quite nicely. Uses double A batteries, so battery life is long, and sounds very impressive. Most importantly IMO, the reciever also has mixing capability built in, so if you need to feed two mics to one channel on your camcorder, it allows you to mix channels one/two from the receiver. You can monitor directly, and control each mic's level from the receiver as well. we've put an 899 on the body pack and use the buttplug on the boom. Small, easy to set up, and fast, plus free-frequency scan
WedVidMan wrote on 4/7/2007, 8:48 AM
Cervama, I use the same cameras for my weddings. On the PD170, in addition to the oem mic, I have a Sennheiser G2, which I mike on the Groom, mid chest high. The G2s are/can be extremely sensitive, so watch your settings. On the VX2100, I use a VideoMic - excellent pickup. I then set 3 other mikes at various locations, altar, speaker podium, etc, (depends on what the officiator will let me do), which are run into a portable mixer and then a zoom recorder, It surprising even with all of that you can still miss something when someone sneezes or coughs right in the middle of an "I do" Like spot, I want to go to a dual wireless unit for my VX2100, but I've had to cancel all of my weddings this year, so hopefully, next year. Just remember you just can't get enough audio.
richard-courtney wrote on 4/7/2007, 9:46 AM
I had a WLXPro set....the only good thing I can say is it looked nice sittng
on top of my PD170. Even put a XLR right angle plug on the cable.

It does not have a hot enough mic. For weddings you will find the groom will
get nervous and does not speak up loud enough, It has a fair amount of self
noise. Their Pro88W has better sound for a little more money.

If you can, try to get a feed from the church's sound engineer. A direct box and
set of adapters/cables is a wise investment. Feed this on your second channel.

Leave the mic on. You sometimes get "private" comments from the groom
that are priceless for the DVD. "Can't wait to get out of this tux" "She's hot" etc.

http://www.procosound.com/downloads/db1.pdf
newhope wrote on 4/7/2007, 4:10 PM

While I'd prefer to have a Sennheiser or Sony UHF radio mike I own an AZDEN WM-PRO

http://www.azdencorp.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=93396&cat=35&page=1

I've used it on several weddings without any problems and find I can pick up both the bride and groom from the single mike with careful placement on the groom. I also have a short shotgun on the second input of the PD-150 so I can back up the radio mike with it as well.

I don't do weddings as a business but do record and mix professional audio for television and have been surprised at the quality this 'cheap' radio mike supplies.

The AZDEN has a limited range, about 100ft is max in ideal conditions, when compared to more professional radio mikes but can be switched between two separate frequencies in case of interference.

It comes with a shoe mount for the receiver but you'll need to get a converter plug for the PD-170 audio input as it comes with a 3.5mm tip and sleeve plug for domestic handycams.
I made a short convertor lead from 3.5mm socket to XLR for my PD-150 and it works well.

Brand new they sell for $235.00 rrp but you should find them around for less.
I've had mine for around ten years now and first used it with a domestic camcorder.

New Hope Media
Avanti wrote on 4/8/2007, 12:47 PM
I've been using two Azden UHF wireless mics for 6 years and no problems.