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Subject:Crackling during GUI movement
Posted by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/9/2006 8:52:10 AM

Whenever I zoom in or out, or scroll tracks up and down, make tracks deeper etc, I get a crackling sound.

I've selected the "use slower updates" option, but this hasn't made any effect.

I'm on a P4 3GHz with 2Gb RAM, and the system shouldn't be stressed. The video card is an AGP Matrox 550 with the latest drivers.

Any thoughts ?

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: billybk
Date:4/9/2006 9:34:57 AM

For the time being, try going into the Preferences|Audio Device tab and uncheck "Enable track buffering" and click "Apply". This is a known issue, on some systems, and wil be fixed in the ACID 6a update.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: randygo
Date:4/9/2006 11:03:49 AM


Hopefully the buffer setting will fix your problem.

I had a similar issue with my brand new computer a few months ago - clicking and a gaps during playback when zooming and moving about on the screen. It turned out the problem arose from my onboard graphics controller which shared video ram from main memory. I put in a cheap NVidia MX4000 based graphics card and I have been completely free of problems since.

So, I would definitely look at trying other graphics cards if you can.

Cheers,

Randy

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: pwppch
Date:4/9/2006 1:17:53 PM

"alltheseworlds "

Please fill out your system specs in your profile.

Peter

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/9/2006 5:05:19 PM

Thanks for the tip. I deselected the "track buffering" option and the clicks are gone. As for the Matrox 550, it's an absolute rock so far as everything else is concerned so am very reluctant to consider changing it.

I've also updated my profile with PC specs.

:-) Loving AP6

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: pwppch
Date:4/9/2006 5:07:38 PM

You have to enable viewing of your system specs by checking:

"Display system information on my forum profile page"


Thanks
Peter

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/9/2006 5:13:37 PM

Oops. Fixed.

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/9/2006 5:44:44 PM

I was a bit hasty in my reply. Seems it's helped a lot, but not entirely fixed things...

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:4/9/2006 7:52:51 PM

Alltheseworlds...

I just checked and your drivers for the G550 are up tp 5.95.005

http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/certified/home.cfm

HTH. If you find something different let us know.

Ed.

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/10/2006 1:00:56 AM

Thanks Shtunot.

An extra little bit of info: The crackling seems to get worse the longer I work. But it's definitely not a RAM or CPU issue - the task manager shows 1.4Gb RAM still free and the CPU hardly gets out of the teens.

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: Klirrfaktor
Date:4/10/2006 4:37:34 AM

i remember having the same problem in acid 5. i disabled hyper threading in bios and everything is working fine now... no crackling during zoom or moving anymore... you might give this a try

Message last edited on4/10/2006 4:37:54 AM byKlirrfaktor.
Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:4/10/2006 11:45:55 AM

Just for giggles, have you tried turning video acceleration off? If it works then, it could be your card's drivers.

I remember a version of ATI's video card drivers that worked fine with everything else except Madison Media's apps; it was fixed by an update from ATI.

Iacobus
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Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/11/2006 6:32:12 AM

Hyperthreading was already turned off, but good suggestion...

I disabled "hardware acceleration" on the display, but if anything it has made the problem worse. Zooming seems OK, but moving the scollbars, or changing the track height makes it crackle like a 1950s geiger counter :-(

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: frogman06
Date:4/12/2006 5:31:30 PM

I have same problem.
Load a empty song ...
press cont alt del.. open performence tab
leave window open
Move scroll bars in AP 6
Puter useage jumps to 100 %.
???????????????????????

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: randygo
Date:4/12/2006 5:53:31 PM


You might try flashing your G550 BIOS with the latest from the Matrox site.

http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/bios/home2.cfm

Here are some folk discussing problems with the G550:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/printable.asp?m=729563

Good luck.

Randy

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/12/2006 9:55:39 PM

I thought my drivers were up to date, but obviously not. The latest driver release has so far resulted in zero crcakling :-) Thanks

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: frogman06
Date:4/29/2006 4:38:15 PM

any more info on this ati fix
im haveing pros with cpu drain when i move the gui
thanks

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: alltheseworlds
Date:4/29/2006 11:51:13 PM

And I'm still getting bad crackling but only in some sessions ( but in the same project). I can't pin down why I'm sometimes getting it and sometimes not....

What the driver update DID solve was crackling during zooming. Now I just get it sometimes when using the scrollbars.

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: randygo
Date:4/30/2006 12:19:30 AM


That card is at least half-decade old. You may need something with a good 2D driver implementation to see if it alleviates your problem. Find a good computer shop in your area that will let you experiment with different graphics cards.

Cheers,

Randy

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: frogman06
Date:5/1/2006 11:02:33 PM

Im running a ATI Radeon 9550 256 meg card .
Everytime i move the gui my cpu useage jumps to 100%.
Ive loaded the latest drivers , tryed some of the tweeks with no luck.
Do all ATI cards have this prob???
This does not happen with anyother programs.

Subject:RE: Crackling during GUI movement
Reply by: Klirrfaktor
Date:5/3/2006 5:05:41 AM

i was using a ati radeon 9600 256mb first and i had the troubles with crackling aswell... then i bought some nvidia card because i was thinking ati is the cause of the problem. but i got exactly the same issue with the nvidia card... finally i disabled hyperthreading in bios and the crackling was gone. i only experience crackling when using a big project with a lot of fx used... and then i can raise the audio card latency to get rid of it.

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