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rdolishny wrote on 11/16/2004, 1:58 PM
That topic has been discussed to death! Do a search and sit back. :)

Imagine this:

One chroma keyed composite dissolved into another chromakeyed composite. Try that in Vegas. Sure you can render clips but then what if you need to make a change... Then you have to remember to re-render your clip again... rrr. Nested layers take care of that housekeeping for you.

There are millions of reasons why you would need a nested layer. Animated lower thirds, opening montages... It will come eventually, all NLE's have it except Vegas.

- R
Nat wrote on 11/16/2004, 2:35 PM
Think it as a way to organize several layers of video into one block and apply effects/changes non destructively to that block, with the possibility to acess the edits within that block to make real changes.
jkrepner wrote on 11/16/2004, 2:42 PM
In-snyc Speed Razor has a nifty way of dealing with this. Effects and transitions appear on the timeline as separate clips, that can be assigned to video clips that are placed underneath the clip you wish to effect. Transitions have "I" and "O" links that allow you to click on the clip(s) you wish to transition choose as In and Out. Lets say you have 15 video files stacked vertically on the timeline on 15 different video tracks ranging from 1 though 15 (with keyed images, titles, graphics, etc..) and then you have another 15 video files on another 15 video tracks below it, in Razor, you just slide the transition you want onto the timeline between the first and second groups of video tracks and just select the first 15 tracks as "I" (in) and the second 15 tracks as "O" (out) using the windows standard Ctrl+ left clicking process. Here is a link to their site that sort of shows what I mean: http://trends.in-sync.com/in-sync/dload/DualScreen551.jpg

This made no sense, well, unless you have used Razor. Point is, maybe Sony could address this issue by implementing a similar feature into Vegas. In some ways it is easier (although it doesn't sound easier do to my piss-poor description) than nested timelines. Sometimes, you just want to use the same transition on the title track and graphic tracks as your main video track without dragging up another transition for each video track.

Never Mind.

-Jeff
michael_morlan wrote on 11/17/2004, 9:56 AM
More importantly to me as a narrative film editor, nested timelines allow me to keep several versions of a sequence and simply swap them back and forth as a whole into my master edit.