HDTV commentary.

Spot|DSE wrote on 6/24/2004, 9:36 PM
High-Maintenance TV
THERE are people for whom getting something to work right is half the fun. For them, there's a new challenge: viewing the digital versions of free broadcast TV.

At some point, cable and satellite services will offer many local digital stations. But until then, watching "The West Wing," the N.B.A. finals or "C.S.I." in HDTV, the digital format that offers gloriously sharp wide-screen images, usually involves getting the signals the old-fashioned way: by means of an antenna and a decoder box. And that can often make grown men cry.

While many users apparently have no problem receiving HDTV or other digital broadcasts, others have flooded online discussion groups like AVS Forum (avsforum .com) with tales of woe.

These users report that decoder boxes may pull in some broadcast stations but not others, depending on the time of day, distance from the transmitter, proximity to other buildings and weather conditions. Boxes from every manufacturer are reported to freeze up and to require rebooting, usually by hitting a reset button or by unplugging the box and then plugging it back in.

Rebooting is not something you expect with a service meant to be as stable as plain old TV.

Neither is constant fiddling with an antenna, something many consumers thought had ended years ago when they threw out their last rabbit-eared TV and hooked into cable or satellite service. But for a digital TV antenna to work properly, its aim must often be as precise as a sharpshooter's.

"Installing an antenna is easy to do as long as you have a signal meter," said John C. Thomas, an HDTV aficionado in Canton, Ga. But signal problems occur if he rotates the antenna even slightly.

When he first installed the antenna in his attic, Mr. Thomas used trial and error, moving it around until he found a sweet spot where reception was best. And it is very sweet indeed. "If I move it a few feet away, then I introduce signal problems that the HDTV decoder box can't deal with," he said.

Perhaps fortunately, a majority of digital TV owners are not even trying to watch digital broadcasts. Since the transition to digital broadcasting began in 1998, 8.3 million households have acquired digital TV's, according to Adams Media Research. But only 1.7 million of those have the built-in hardware or set-top box necessary to receive and decode HDTV broadcast signals. The owners of the other 6.6 million sets are using them to watch standard-definition TV and DVD's.

Under a Federal Communications Commission ruling, all TV's will eventually come with built-in digital broadcast tuners. And later this year, manufacturers will introduce cable-ready digital sets that can receive channels like ESPN-HD and HBO HDTV without a decoder box. According to the Leichtman Research Group, by the end of this year, 3.5 million viewers will be watching some broadcast and cable HDTV channels by cable or satellite.

But today, those who want to watch digital broadcasts free still usually need to use an antenna and a set-top box. And that is where the fun starts.

Manufacturers of decoding equipment say that the problem is not with their hardware. "We've had no decoder boxes returned due to reception problems," said John Taylor, vice president for public affairs at LG Electronics USA, Zenith's parent company and a major decoder manufacturer, along with Samsung, Thomson (RCA's parent), Toshiba and others.

Mark Richer, president of the Advanced Television Systems Committee, the industry group overseeing the transition to digital television, acknowledged that "like a cellphone or satellite TV, there will always be places where a digital broadcast set-top box won't work well."

Rick Roome, a software engineer in Simi Valley, Calif., knows this firsthand. With his equipment, he can receive the digital feed of almost every Los Angeles station. But even though he is using a 17-foot antenna on his roof and lives just 35 miles from the Mount Wilson transmitter, "some days, the ABC station breaks up, freezes and then disappears," Mr. Roome said. "It happens especially around sundown."

Such reception problems can arise from several factors.

Digital set-top boxes are as complex as computers; when broadcasters send digital signals that do not exactly adhere to the official transmission standards, the box may be incapable of handling them.

To cut power bills when digital viewers are few, most broadcast stations that transmit a digital signal are using less than full power to do so. This not only reduces the range that the signal can travel but also provides a weaker signal even when a customer lives well within the coverage area.

Living closer to a broadcast tower does not reduce the likelihood of reception problems. Urban residents can suffer from the effects of multipath transmissions, signals that bounce off buildings and hills and arrive at the TV from several directions.

The earliest digital set-top decoder boxes dealt so poorly with multipath transmissions that the Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner of 62 TV stations in 39 markets, petitioned the F.C.C. to allow for the simultaneous adoption of the European digital broadcast standard, arguing that it was much easier to receive.

Both Thomson and LG say they will incorporate new technology into their next-generation digital TV decoders that should eliminate multipath reception problems. Most consumers will then be able to use just a small indoor antenna to watch digital TV.

"LG's new technology is a giant leap toward addressing the multipath reception problems," said Nat Ostroff, Sinclair vice president for new technology. Now that consumers will easily be able to receive digital broadcasts, "the incentive is there for us to go to full power."

Still, those advances will not solve all set-top-box problems. Tony Boyd, a retail store planner in Dallas, has no problem receiving digital broadcast channels with his decoder box and an antenna. But when he is watching some HDTV channels on DirecTV, the audio or video drops out from time to time, and the box occasionally freezes. Mr. Boyd has gone through two units, but the symptoms persist. "DirecTV cannot solve the problem," he said.

In addition to technological improvements, Mr. Richer's group, the Advanced Television Systems Committee, is working on a set of "recommended practices," guidelines for minimum performance standards for digital receivers. And antennas are not being neglected, either: within months, versions that electronically tune themselves without being moved to receive the strongest signal will appear on the market.

Even when HDTV programming on cable and satellite services becomes ubiquitous, reliable reception of broadcast digital channels using an antenna will remain important, broadcasters say. There will always be people who do not subscribe to satellite or cable, or do not have it hooked up to a second or third set. In addition, some broadcasters have floated the idea of offering a mini-package of cable channels, delivered over the air as a digital broadcast signal.

That plan can only work if reliable reception is a given. "Digital converter boxes are getting better," said Ken Holsgrove, an HDTV consultant and an AVS Forum moderator. But for customers who expect current over-the-air digital TV to work like regular TV, he had some advice: "I'd steer clear of it. The technology will not support their expectations."

Comments

RexA wrote on 6/24/2004, 11:10 PM
Personally, I love OTA HDTV but...

In my vi\ew, everything was much better a year or more back before the stations started upgrading their hardware. Now problems are much more frequent. Things like -- no HD braodcast, HD but no sound, video and audio way out of sync.

And locally the channels have had to redo the broadcast antenna for most of the local stations. For me, signals that used to be strong are now marginal. I needed a roof antenna pointed correctly before, but now must upgrade to a killer antenna.

There is some slight possibility that my local antenna has degraded while the stations were changing their antenna configuration. Who cares? Either way I need to get a better antenna here.

I do love the HD signal when it is working, though.

A few may have never heard of using an antenna to get TV. This will probably increase and may eventually be legislated out of existance.

Now that cable exists most everywhere, the target market for OTA TV broadcast seems to be dummer than dirt and never had a job.
John_Cline wrote on 6/25/2004, 12:35 AM
After years of cable TV, I found myself up on the roof installing an outdoor antenna to pick up the OTA DTV stuff. It seemed like a giant step backwards, but as it turned out, it wasn't. All of the channels here in Albuquerque (except for the NBC affiliate) were broadcasting DTV and a few of them in HDTV. (The local PBS affiliate has always been very technically progressive and they were the first on the air transmitting 1080i.)

I have two MyHD 120 HDTV cards in a pair of computers, one is in my office hooked up to a 21" Viewsonic P810 computer monitor and the other is in the other room feeding a Sony XBR910 34" 16x9 HDTV monitor and a 7.1 audio system using professional JBL studio monitors. The MyHD cards can record the DTV bitstream to hard drive for later viewing, it is essentially a HiDef TIVO.

Yes, the stations had some "teething" issues in the beginning and the early MyHD card software had some issues as well, but things have been ironed out for quite a while and I have had no problems in probably a year or so. I turn it on and watch it. I love it.

Albuquerque is fairly unique in that all of the TV transmitters are in one location at the top of a 10,678 foot (3,255 meter) mountain. My house is at exactly 5,280 feet (1,609 meters) and 8.9 miles (14.3 kilometers) from the transmitter site. I have a completely unobstructed view of the top of the mountain from my roof and the signal here is pristine and free of multipath.

I suppose I may look into the cable companies HDTV offerings, or maybe look into VOOM, but there is no option to record from these sources yet, so I'll stick with the MyHD cards and watch (and record) OTA. There's plenty of HiDef programming available, so I'm OK for now.

My DTV experience has been quite satisfactory. Your mileage may vary (and probably will depending on where you live.)

John
jcg wrote on 6/25/2004, 12:42 AM
SPOT, thanks for this insightful review. It comes just in time. My husband will be shopping this weekend. I'm printing this out and handing it to him right now.

JCG
Luxo wrote on 6/25/2004, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the article Spot. Where's it from? Did you write it?

I project OTA HD signals onto a 120" screen from an LCD projector (720p native). My receiver is actually an upscalling LG DVD player, and I looked at the receiver as a bonus. My antanae is a small 8" dish in the basement, and in the late hours I can get all 4 major networks + PBS without interruption (Chicago northside). I'd install a roof antanae, but I don't watch much HD. However, I have to admit it's hard not to gawk at the picture during Leno, Great Museums, or that live concert series on PBS. :-)
farss wrote on 6/25/2004, 1:47 AM
Australia is a bit further down the digital TV path than most of the world, our analogue transmitters get turned off in 2008 I think. Amyway our experience is SD digital is vastly superior to analogue. Number of factors:
1) We can get vision with embedded CCs for recording.
2) For SD the image quality makes me wonder why we need HD.
3) No more ghosting, big issue where we are, very close to one transmitter and the other two on different compass points.

Downsides:
1) The STB locks up every once in a while, not that bigger a pain.
2) When digital goes a bit bad it's very bad
3) Areas that could get marginal analogue have no show with digital and that's a lot of Australians.

The guys who build the locally designed STBs tell me a large part of the problems are the tuner modules.
JJKizak wrote on 6/25/2004, 5:54 AM
Living about 15 miles away from most of the TV transmitters and with
the D-9000 antenna going through a dense wooded area most of the signals are good to excellent. I use an HD-120 computer card and an MDR-200 for the TV set. (Sony KV-34HS510). I also have a Samsung T-165 that I am not satisfied with do to scaling problems. (Ruins all of the analog channels). I have 12 digital channels to select from and more coming online every day. The HD performance is spectacular in most cases and the Sd is fine. The local stations tend to not send the
scaling flags during HD/SD broadcasts for the commercial breaks so I do get a lot of fat short people. One station broadcasts an SD signal of some wierd proportions so that it almost covers the 16 x 9 screen and it makes the people not so fat or short but not exactly right (FOX).
Am I happy with the performance? Yes, I will never go back. After viewing some V5 rendered HDV slide shows with the MY-HD 120 its almost like the old days with the 2.25 x 2.25 projector showing the slides on the ceiling and wall and floor after zooming.

JJK
Spot|DSE wrote on 6/25/2004, 6:13 AM
No, it comes from an industry report, I thought I copy/pasted the source in but apparently didn't and have already discarded. I believe it's from Trendwatch.
dvdude wrote on 6/25/2004, 6:53 AM
I watch OTA WCBS and WABC on a regular basis without issue, despite being around 35 miles from the NY transmitters (as the crow flies) and using a relatively small antenna with no pre-amp. WNBC is iffy but, according to the AVS forums, they're working on a combiner on the ESB (currently WNBC is low power from the GE building). I have no STB as of yet, though I'm likely to get a HD-TiVo for Direct TV when the supplies pick up.

That means I'm using only the tuner in my set (Sony KD-34XBR2 direct view tube) and I can honestly say that in almost 3 years I haven't needed to "reboot" the TV once!

I'm sure there are problems, but that article makes it sound like the entire system simply doesn't work - I think that's probably at least a little distorted.
bw wrote on 6/25/2004, 6:54 AM
farss, My experience in Australia is that DTV works exceptionally well in bad locations. I have installed a number of cheap (ie no HDTV) set top boxes in the Kangaroo Valley area south of Sydney with absolutely amazing results.
Where some could only receive one or two channels of the five available and them barely watchable in analogue they now get all five with only the occasional glitch in adverse weather.
While our channels are generally grouped in either the high or low band UHF the digital channels are all over the place so my advice is that a good wide band phased array antenna properly mounted and unless you are very close to the transmitters a mast head amplifier are essential.
The signal strength indication on set top boxes and mobile phones make antenna adjustment much less divorce making these days.
I reckon that DTV must scare the pants off the cable and satelite operators since with no need for guard channels like analogue digital could technically put twenty or more channels out there with five or so pics each (FREE).
but of course this is not going to happen as the government has already been got at and during prime time (ie after six pm) even our five prime channels have to cut back to only one picture.
Mind you I am not sure there is eneough good television out ther for even five channel let alone 100 or more (I dont have pay) but lets not get into that.
InterceptPoint wrote on 6/25/2004, 7:21 AM
John Cline wrote: I have two MyHD 120 HDTV cards in a pair of computers ...

Here are some questions for you John that impact Vegas users who might want to do the same thing (like myself). Specifically the questions relate to how your setup would impact the operation of the dual output graphics cards that are typically used by Vegas editors.

Here are the questions:

1. Can you wire up the MyHD so that you can continue to use an external NTSC monitor during Vegas editing sessions without any cable switching?

2. Does the MyHD card degrade the normal PC display or video on either the PC or the external monitor?
John_Cline wrote on 6/25/2004, 8:06 AM
InterceptPoint,

The MyHD card is completely independent of the computer's graphics card.

In answer to question 1, the MyHD card does not have NTSC output, it will not feed a standard TV or video monitor. It will output either component video to feed a HiDef monitor or you can output a VGA compatible signal which will drive a standard RGB computer monitor.

Regarding question 2, no, the MyHD card doesn't degrade anything.

John
InterceptPoint wrote on 6/25/2004, 8:10 AM
John Cline:

If you are using your computers monitor to view the HDTV signal it seems like your video card would have to be involved or there would have to be a switch.

Does your answer mean that you are not operating your systems this way?
JJKizak wrote on 6/25/2004, 8:23 AM
Depending on how you hook it up and what option you check off you will see a window on your computer monitor and you will be able to make all adjustments to the MYHD card and also the size and video properties that are sent to the monitor. You will be able to watch the TV set and the monitor at the same time. The monitor picture of course is not HD.

JJK
John_Cline wrote on 6/25/2004, 8:55 AM
You can run the MyHD card several ways, one is using a window on your computer monitor's destop. It can be adjusted and resized, but as was pointed out, it is not HiDef.

Another option is to use a single computer monitor and the cable that comes with the MyHD. You plug the cable into the VGA output of your graphics card and your computer monitor into the MyHD. You can then use the MyHD software to switch the monitor between your computer's graphics card or the HiDef output from the MyHD card. Most computer monitors are capable of displaying true 1920x1080i HiDef video.

The third option is to dedicate a computer monitor or 16x9 HiDef television to the output of the MyHD card which will make the monitor completely separate from the computer's display monitor. I am running a dual-head graphics card with dual monitors and have a third monitor (the Viewsonic P810) hooked up directly to the MyHD card. The P810 is used exclusively to view the output from the MyHD card. My other MyHD setup also has dual monitors with the MyHD card feeding a Sony 16x9 HDTV monitor. Essentially, both of my systems have three monitors, two for the computer and one for the HDTV.

John

InterceptPoint wrote on 6/25/2004, 10:35 AM
John Cline wrote: "You can then use the MyHD software to switch the monitor between your computer's graphics card or the HiDef output from the MyHD card..."

First: Thanks for the very complete and knowledgeable reply.

As I suspected. This makes sense. The concern I expressed in my original comment was based on some very bad results I had routing my video output through one of the early ATI TV Wonder cards and having it completely ruin my normal text display. I have a Viewsonic P815 display and the output of the TV Wonder card made white on black text completely unreadable for even modest font sizes. Removing the ATI card got me back to my normally very crisp display.

So I'm assuming the MyHD switch and whatever other routing they do does not impact your normal display quality.

That is the crucial question for me. If you answer no impact on normal text then I'm going to buy one.
farss wrote on 6/25/2004, 4:27 PM
That's good to hear although the stories I'd heard related more to people in the far west of NSW. They would have had very marginal analogue reception to start with but it was SOMETHING to watch if you know what I mean. I think it's much the same issue as when they lost the AMPS mobile network.
But for me DVB ROCKS, going into a cheap 16:9 TV via SCART it looks awesome. I'm using the Digidome SD STB with only the odd need to reset. I'm told the HD version is not as good due to a different tuner.

Bob.
JJKizak wrote on 6/25/2004, 4:56 PM
My experience shows that the analog signals usually come in like gang busters and the digital signals much weaker. I have a few analog channels that come in like a rock but the digital counterparts are weak and drop out a lot sometimes, thats why I got a humoungous antenna.
That fixed it. The analog sensitivity of the MY-HD card is the same as the Sony standard tuner but is not as sophisticated as the Sony on intermodulation and flutter and phasing in an out. All of that occurrs with almost zero signal strength so its no big deal.

JJK
TheHappyFriar wrote on 6/25/2004, 5:27 PM
That's interinsting spot. :)

At the TV station I used to work at (not HD yet.. why? FCC hasn't approved the digital x-mitter request yet!), we dealed with Digital satelites all the time. It was a pain. I remember that UPN would drop out all the time, yet, the analog on that same satelite would be PERFECT! :) Then there was other digital stuff we had to get. Most of the time it was point and shoot (my boss didn't want to rent (let alone buy) a spectrum anaylizer, and he called our part time engineer an ass & a liar so we had no more engineer.. but that's another story!). So, guess who got to manualy find digital satellites? :)

But, I do know about the HD signels around here (buffalo). Most people in the region don't know it, but the ABC, NBC, & CBS affiliates around here don't broadcast from buffalo, but from 20 miles south. :) So people normaly point their antena's in the wrong direction. Then, our FOX & WB affiliates are on the US/Canada border (grand island). Infact, almost everyone around here with an ourdoor antenna geta all buffalo & toronto stations. Real sweet. :) (well, I don't have an antenna, so I get 1 station , and that's the one i quit. :)

Thanks for the HDTV update!